Vista Home Premium OEM Software usage

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  1. grizzly44

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    I recently bought my wife an HP DV6700 laptop with Home Premium factory installed. This is an AMD dual core with 2GB of ram and all the bloatware you can get. Her old Athlon XP was faster than this dual core by a wide margin; but it also ran XP Pro.



    Can I buy an OEM Vista Home Premium DVD, then perform a clean install, loosing all the HP crap and activate with the notebook's product key? If so, I see no reason why I couldn't use the key that came with the Vista disk on my desktop.?.? Each computer would have an OEM product key unique to the computer its installed on.



    The HP offers no way to make a "Windows" disk, just the recovery disks which still have all the crap that's slowing down everything. And by the way I've tried turning everything possible off via MSCONFIG & services. CPU is always 20%-40%, even at idle. Ram is 50% on average at idle also.



    Any advice would be welcome,



    Chris
     
    grizzly44, Mar 25, 2008
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  2. grizzly44

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    The OEM Product Key on your laptop is tied to the OEM copy installed by HP.
    If YOU buy an Vista OEM DVD, it comes with its own Product Key, that you
    can use on your laptop.

    But, in amongst HP's garbage will be unique drivers pertaining to
    proprietary hardware they have installed in your laptop.
    Sound has been the prob I've always had doing that!

    Your idea will work OK, but you might be missing some Drivers.
    Also, you void your Warranty; for what it is worth!!!!!
    --
    Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia
     
    Guest, Mar 25, 2008
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  3. grizzly44

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    My new HP with Premium factory installed runs with core 1 at 0% to 2% as I
    write this, and core 2 at 3% to 5%. (Also AMD dual core, a6230n model.) This
    is after it's done all its initial settling in, and I've taken a few things
    out of the start menu that I don't use. RAM is about 50% but my
    understanding is Vista's meant to run this way -- and I also am using 4Gb of
    RamBoost via a flash drive.

    Have had no problems -- running well.

    LesleyO

    (PS: I am the wife in this family; my husband is the one who isn't as
    computer literate.)
     
    Guest, Mar 25, 2008
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  4. grizzly44

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    The usage the processor that shows 20 to 40 % on a newish machine is usually
    the newer style indexing service Vista uses. Leave the machine on over night
    and it will have indexed most things and the problem will be reduced.
    Failing that disable the indexing by right clicking on the 'c' drive in my
    computer and unchecking the indexing option (my own personal preference). I
    have a HP laptop that I got in May 2007 running Vista home premium. Took off
    the obvious 3rd party bloat ware but left the HP stuff. It runs fine and has
    good performance, doing exactly what it said on the box. I did remove Roxio
    burning software and replaced it with Nero.

    Cheers,

    Chris.
     
    Guest, Mar 26, 2008
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  5. grizzly44

    Guest Guest

    The decrapifier finds stuff you wouldn't and overlooks stuff you'd find:
    http://www.pcdecrapifier.com/apps
    You might want to give it a whirl before you spend time and money.
     
    Guest, Mar 26, 2008
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  6. grizzly44

    Guest Guest

    It's better to just uninstall the programs you know you'll never use and
    leave the OS and the rest as is. You lose warranty support on the HP if you
    change the OS for one thing. The emphasis on 'bloat' in these systems is
    somewhat overblown IMHO. Most of the installed software is inactive and
    doesn't affect system performance. It just takes up a bit of harddrive
    space. Be aware that it is possible there could be Media Center add-ons that
    rely on other installed software in order to function. For instance HP had a
    unique music player add-on for MCE 2005 that linked into Itunes and couldn't
    run without it, also MuVee and ,IIRC, WinDVD burning add-ons for Media
    Center.

    Of the programs that would be running in the background, the AV, firewall
    (if 3rd party) and other anti-malware apps are more likely to be responsible
    for slowing down the system. Those you could replace with your own preferred
    software. The remote help/software updating service also runs in the
    background. It is something a lot of people consider intrusive so they
    remove it... but that also removes some instant access live support, which
    some new owners have regretted. Some of the CPU activity initially will be
    the Vista indexing service running. That will tone down to practically
    nothing over time.
     
    Guest, Mar 26, 2008
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  7. grizzly44

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    Another good cleanup program is msicuu.exe... Windows Installer Cleanup. It
    lists what's there and you choose what programs to remove.
     
    Guest, Mar 26, 2008
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  8. grizzly44

    Guest Guest

    you can try at newegg.com for an oem version. one thing you can try is to
    turn off indexing, this will speed up your system.


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    Guest, Mar 26, 2008
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  9. grizzly44

    Guest Guest

    IMHO, HP isn't responsible for "all the crap that's slowing down
    everything", that's Microsoft. I never had an HP, but on my Dell you can
    remove all the OEM garbage in Control Panel, Uninstall a program. The
    suggestion to do a complete install is like taking a sledge hammer to it,
    and won't accomplish that much.

    Earle
     
    Guest, Mar 26, 2008
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  10. grizzly44

    Guest Guest

    I apologies if I am wrong here but most pre-installations when you have
    created the restore discs have an advanced install option, So you can choose
    to install things like OS only, OS only with Drivers or full factory
    re-install. Might be worth checking this out before purchasing another oem
    copy.

    MBG
     
    Guest, Mar 26, 2008
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  11. grizzly44

    Guest Guest

    What I did was use the Anytime Upgrade disk that came with my laptop and installed using that. It
    will give you the option of what OS you want... ultimate, premium, ... I check premium since that's
    what I paid for with my laptop, typed in the serial from the bottom of my computer and that's it. I
    also, had to do a couple reinstalled in the last year, I did the same thing. If it gives you a count
    down to activate, just call the number it tells you and your activated in 5 -10 mins.

    I did it this way because some programmes will leave files behind even after uninstalling them...
    It's as fresh and clean as you can get. :)

    Paul

    --
    HP Pavilion DV9417ca Entertainment Laptop
    AMD Turion 64 x 2 core 1.8GHz
    160GB/2GB/NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150
    17"Wscreen/Wifi/BT/Built-in cam/RC
    Vista Premium x32-bit SP1

    iPAQ 2490 WM5
     
    Guest, Mar 26, 2008
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  12. grizzly44

    Guest Guest

    btw, CCLEANER is a great cleanup programme... you can get it free from filehippo.com.

    --
    HP Pavilion DV9417ca Entertainment Laptop
    AMD Turion 64 x 2 core 1.8GHz
    160GB/2GB/NVIDIA GeForce Go 6150
    17"Wscreen/Wifi/BT/Built-in cam/RC
    Vista Premium x32-bit SP1

    iPAQ 2490 WM5
     
    Guest, Mar 26, 2008
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  13. grizzly44

    Guest Guest

    First, make recovery discs. Always a good idea before you go wiping things.
    Secondly, either write down all the names of hardware using Device Manager,
    or print off a list. Thridly, don't buy a Vista disc. Borrow someone elses.
    It doesn't matter if it is Basic, Premium, Business or Ultimate, your
    Premium key will install Premium -- the discs are alike, the key determines
    what is installed.

    I was explaining it to my mate today: the Vista (and, coincidentally, Office
    2007) discs are the same, except maybe for the label. It is all dependent on
    what product key you put in. Vista Anytime Upgrade essentially beams you a
    new product key.

    Also, remove as much of the bloatware as possible, and consider removing
    Roxio and replacing it with Nero, and WinDVD or whatever and replacing it
    with PowerDVD. You'll thank yourself later. These programs are both top of
    their classes, and I would use them any day over the HP c%$p.

    Cheers!
     
    Guest, Apr 7, 2008
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