Dungeon Keeper incompatible with Vista?

Discussion in 'Gaming Support' started by Guest, Mar 23, 2008.

  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I am at the end of my tether!

    I go to install Dungeon Keeper or Dungeon Keeper Gold on my new Vista PC and
    it gets to the title screen with Horny and then closes into a blackbox at the
    top left of my screen, minimizes then closes.

    I am not the only one who cannot get it running on Vista either as you can
    see there are among hundreds of people with this problem:

    http://vogons.zetafleet.com/viewtopic.php?t=15412&sid=d83bb96204ea6f54a940aa2d5711e8f2

    http://www.compatdb.org/ubbthreads.php/ubb/showflat/Number/178301/page/1

    http://z9.invisionfree.com/Keeper_Klan_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1350

    http://z9.invisionfree.com/Keeper_Klan_Forum/index.php?showtopic=1092


    Is there any patch to get it running on vista? Changing the compatibility
    options don't work either!

    Will Microsoft actually do anything for this?

    Please let me know. Regards.
     
    Guest, Mar 23, 2008
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  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

    It has nothing to do with M$ it is upto the game makers to supply a patch..
    But I have Gold running on my Vista machine. Installed as administrator,
    didn't have to do anything else.
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    Guest, Mar 23, 2008
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  3. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Found this on VRG
    Hi there. Believe it or not, I just finished the entire game again
    (for the nth time), but this time on Vista! I was having the exact
    same issues as you, crashing, freezing... then I went into the Windows
    DEP (Window key+pause - Advanced System Settings - Performace tab,
    Settings - Data Execution Prevention tab - Add) then add the
    Keeper95.exe to the list. Then go into the program file Keeper95.exe,
    right click it and choose compatibility - Windows XP SP2. Now after
    all this, if I run the game from the shortcut it won't work! You have
    to go into the program files\bullfrog\keeper\ and run the game by
    directly clicking on keeper95.exe. Weird, but worked every time!
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    Guest, Mar 23, 2008
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  4. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Fair enough, but surely MS can alter the compatibility list, seeing as they
    are the ones who decided to bring out new software.

    I've just tried running it as an administrator, but it still doesnt work.
    Does the exact same thing. Any other solutions? Thanks.
     
    Guest, Mar 23, 2008
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  5. Guest

    Guest Guest

    That doesn't work either I'm afraid.

    Managed to find any other potential solutions? Thanks.
     
    Guest, Mar 23, 2008
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  6. Guest

    Guest Guest

    When you do find a way to get it to work please post here what it is you do
    to get it working! It's one of my all time favorite games and I'd hate to
    not be able to play it anymore. Getting a new gaming notebook next week and
    it is loaded with Vista Ultimate 64. I'm hope VRG Scotty's solution works
    for me if I run into problems, but I'm counting on DarkMisstress if it
    doesn't! Of course I'll post anything I find too.

    Best of luck to you!
     
    Guest, Mar 23, 2008
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  7. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Wow, 100 people still play Dungeon Keeper? Don't get me wrong, Dungeon
    Keeper is the "bee's-knees", but really, 100?

    I got it running, forget how, but I believe I used DOSBox and that worked,
    and I also ran it in Vista using a lot of compatibility tweaks. I can't for
    the life of me remember how.

    FYI, good for you keeping the spirit of Bullfrog alive. John Riccitello from
    EA just stated that destroying Bullfrog was one of EA's "Biggest Mistakes".

    -A.
     
    Guest, Mar 23, 2008
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  8. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I tried that, didn't help me, I did something else to get the game working,
    but won't know til I get home tonight. DOSBox is still my recommendation.
    The game in DOS lacks some things, but it's playable.

    DK2 runs better, but fans don't seem to like that version as much.

    -A.
     
    Guest, Mar 23, 2008
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  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Anybody else managed to discover anything which may make DK1 work on vista
    without having to use Dosbox which really limits what you can do. i.e :
    Editor, Direct 3D, plays in a small window, lags etc.

    Thankyou!
     
    Guest, Mar 23, 2008
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  10. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I tried that windows DEP trick too, didn't work for me either. Now it
    just does nothing at all.
    Anyone has some different ideas? I've checked practically every forum
    there is on this subject and noone seems to have a solution that works
    for me! It's always 'just change your compatibillity settings', but
    that also doesn't work.

    How does DOSbox work? Maybe after all, I'll have to try that...

    Ana

    ,
     
    Guest, Mar 23, 2008
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  11. Guest

    Guest Guest

    DOSBox is a GREAT program, it's basically an emulator that emulates an old
    DOS system running with old ISA (dos friendly) sound cards like the SB16 and
    Gravis UltraSound.

    If you have old DOS games, more than likely DOSBox can run them.

    It is an emulator though, so you need a fairly robust system to get good
    performance out of it, and setup is a little tricky, but once it's working
    it should run DK. Best thing to do is Google something like "Dungeon Keeper
    DOSBox How-TO."

    See what comes up. http://www.dosbox.com/comp_list.php?showID=758&letter=D

    Been reading notes online since Dungeon Keeper used to be for Pentium it
    requires a fairly high end system to run in DOSBox.

    That DEP trick never works

    Here's a link to the DOSBox tutorial... live it, love it.
    http://www.dosbox.com/wiki/Basic_Setup_and_Installation_of_DosBox


    I tried that windows DEP trick too, didn't work for me either. Now it
    just does nothing at all.
    Anyone has some different ideas? I've checked practically every forum
    there is on this subject and noone seems to have a solution that works
    for me! It's always 'just change your compatibillity settings', but
    that also doesn't work.

    How does DOSbox work? Maybe after all, I'll have to try that...

    Ana
     
    Guest, Mar 23, 2008
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  12. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Hi all. I have been trying to get Dungeon Keeper working with Vista for
    a couple of days.
    I think I'm onto something but am not really sure what yet so just bare
    with me...

    On my desktop (Vista Ultimate x64) I get the problem of DK crashing
    after the splash screen with a black 640*480 box and no error messages.
    I installed it in a 98SE virtual machine using VMWare and it runs well
    except the cursor randowly snaps to edges and renders the game pretty
    unplayable as selecting anything becomes a very tedious chore.
    I also installed it on Microsoft Virtual PC and as on Vista it would
    crash after the splash screen.
    I was going to install it on an old system running Windows 98SE
    natively but while doing so decided to try one last thing...
    I installed DK on my laptop (also running Vista Ultimate x64) and voila
    it worked! Unfortunately the Direct3d won't work but for some reason it
    works on there.
    Now for the weird part...
    I brought my laptop home from my girlfriend's place and tried playing
    on my desktop's monitor but got the same error of crash at splash.
    Puzzled I realised that the only change was the resolution, i turned it
    back down to the laptop's 1440*900 from 1680*1050 and it worked.
    Excitedly I tried this on my desktop but unfortunately it did not work
    :(

    Now the only thing I can think of being different between these two
    machines other than the hardware would be Service Pack 1. However, this
    problem, as I understand, has been occurring to others since before it
    was released.

    If anyone can get it running, what are their system specs?

    My laptop is:
    Dell Inspiron 6400
    Core 2 Duo processor 2Ghz
    2GB RAM
    NVidia 7300Go
    1440*900 resolution

    Desktop:
    Gigabyte EX38-DS4
    Intel E6600
    4GB generic RAM
    NVidia 8800GTS G92
    1680*1050 resolution


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    fredskis
     
    Guest, Mar 27, 2008
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  13. Guest

    Guest Guest

    for
    bare
    messages.
    voila
    it
    it
    this

    I can't believe so many people still play DK 1. Do you play the Deeper =
    Dungeons expansion?

    You may be on to something with the resolution, older DirectX games =
    would sometimes have "trouble" changing resolutions in games. The =
    workaround was to set your computer to the same resolution/color depth =
    that the game runs in.

    So if DK runs in 640x480x256 colors, set your desktop to 640x480x256 =
    (8-bit) color, and try the game again.

    Oh wait, Vista only goes down to 800x600. Well maybe DK runs in 800x600.

    DOSBox buddy, a friend to classic games everywhere.

    -A.
     
    Guest, Mar 27, 2008
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  14. Guest

    Guest Guest

    ok, i have a different problem with vista, cant seem to find many others
    with this complaint. I've installed the patch, compatible XPsp2, all
    that stuff... but when i go to open a campain or skirmish or pet
    dungeon, the game screen is blank. i can pick up imps, if i float my
    hand over an area it'll tell me if its the dungeon heart or walls or
    whatever, i can select where to dig, but i cant see a thing!
    Anyone know what to do?


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    Guest, Jun 4, 2008
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  15. Guest

    Guest Guest

    That sounds weird. Maybe DirectX didn't install properly?


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    Guest, Jun 5, 2008
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    Guest Guest

    Guest, Jun 5, 2008
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  17. Guest

    Guest Guest

    DK is extremely difficult to get running under Vista. I would suggest
    setting the compatibility tab to Windows 95. Disable Desktop
    Composition, and visual themes. Do a little prayer, and try again.

    I've heard people will run DK in DOS mode with DOSBox.

    Here's another possiblity, I recall trying this and could not get it to
    work, but your milage may vary...

    (-quote-)
    I went into the Windows
    DEP (Window key+pause - Advanced System Settings - Performace tab,
    Settings - Data Execution Prevention tab - Add) then add the
    Keeper95.exe to the list. Then go into the program file Keeper95.exe,
    right click it and choose compatibility - Windows XP SP2. Now after
    all this, if I run the game from the shortcut it won't work! You have
    to go into the program files\bullfrog\keeper\ and run the game by
    directly clicking on keeper95.exe. Weird, but worked every time!
    (-end-quote-)

    Thanks VRG Scotty.

    --
    -A.
     
    Guest, Jun 5, 2008
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  18. Guest

    Guest Guest

    here are all your answers for DK2 haven't tried with DK1

    with DK2 you need to find the last patch that was put out, then you have
    to disable visual themes, and composition and run as administrator
     
    Guest, Jun 5, 2008
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    Guest Guest

    Guest, Jun 6, 2008
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    Guest Guest

    :


    Did you try my suggestions about DEP?

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    -A.
     
    Guest, Jun 9, 2008
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