Any chance my monitor will work with Vista?

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  1. pdsnickles

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    I have a Dell 1901FP Flat Panel Color Monitor.



    I just bought a new HP computer using Vista Premium 64bit but am debating whether or not to keep it now that I see so many issues with 64bit Vista.



    I went to the Driver Download page at Dell for my monitor and it has a driver listed for download for XP but none for Vista. I guess that means they have no driver for Vista so it won't work, right? So there's NO WAY I can make the thing work with Vista 64bit right?



    I need to know before I unpack the new computer because if my monitor is yet another thing that won't work with Vista (I already have a list of software that won't) then I may take the dang thing back and buy a new XP computer if I can find one somewhere.



    I have spent the past 2 days looking at lists of software and hardware that may or may not work with Vista Premium, and it's going to cost me hundreds of dollars to replace all this stuff... and if I have to get a new monitor, well there's another $200-300 or so. Is it really worth it to add Vista or should I take this computer back before I take it out of the box and buy a new computer with XP and a lot of RAM so everything I have will keep working?
     
    pdsnickles, Mar 26, 2009
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    Your monitor will work fine.. least of your problems..

    What hardware and software do you have that will not work with Vista 64?


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    Guest, Mar 26, 2009
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    pdsnickles;1002423 Wrote:


    I'm not 100% so don't open the box. but as long as there is a VGA port
    on the back it should work.
    My gateway laptop IS hooked up to a dell M780 monitor.


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    Guest, Mar 26, 2009
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  4. pdsnickles

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    Thanks for that info.
    I guess what confuses me is DELL doesn't have any drivers listed on
    their site for this monitor.
    I guess that could mean that it does not need one because it WILL work
    as is...?

    Does anyone have any idea how I can find out for SURE? I know I could
    call Dell but I am short on $ and don't want to pay for tech support and
    it's out of warranty.

    I have a question posted on their forum but have not got a definitive
    answer there, either.

    Thanks for the info so far. I hope someone can give me a more
    definitive answer or tell me how to find out.

    Oh, and I DID run the Vista Upgrade Advisor on my XP machine and it's
    been scanning for like an hour. I think it's not working... I'll give it
    another hour before I kill it. I don't know what else to do, to find
    out. I'd appreciate any ideas as whether or not I keep this machine and
    set it up (hopefully) tomorrow depends on this issue. I don't want to
    open the box unless I'm 99% sure my monitor will work with Vista 64bit
    Premium.


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    Guest, Mar 26, 2009
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  5. pdsnickles

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    pdsnickles;1002434 Wrote:

    Write down all the driver info from the dell monitor,
    contact the place you got your new machine from and ask them if it will
    work. ( get a name and ID if possible)
    Or goto where you got it and have them hook up any VGA monitor to the
    same machine you have and see if it works.


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    Guest, Mar 26, 2009
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  6. pdsnickles

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    not sure but do flat panel monitors have VGA hook up?


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    Guest, Mar 26, 2009
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  7. pdsnickles

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    I don't know why you think a monitor all of whose drivers are actually
    contained within the operating system itself will not work in Vista 64 bit.
    Unless you have 5-10 year old printer or scanners the odds are that
    everything you have will work just fine in Vista 64 bit and possibly even
    better then they will in Vista 32 bit. Also I am not aware of any 32bit
    software that will not work in 64 bit Vista since software applications
    that do not have specific hardware driver requirements all run in fine with
    Vista 64 bit since there 32 code code runs fine in Vista 64.
    I certainly would not recommend to anybody that they buy a new computer with
    XP and do recommend that any new computer they buy comes with Vista 64 bit
    installed. One of my neighbors was only to happy to have to replace their 8
    year old slow printer with a new 4 way for printer for $80 when they got
    their new Vista 64 bit computer.
    Vista now comes with something like 12 million 32 bit and 64 bit hardware
    drivers so the problems with hardware drivers at first release well over 2
    years ago are no longer an issue.
    It is true if you are still running old 16 bit Dos applications that they
    might not run even in XP emulation mode which is an option in both Vista 32
    or 64 bit.
    I don't think you would buy s black and white TV or even a color TV that has
    a CRT monitor instead of a flat screen monitor so you should be willing to
    learn a few new things to have current most user friendly and cost
    efficient products.




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    Guest, Mar 26, 2009
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  8. pdsnickles

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    On Thu, 26 Mar 2009 19:47:37 -0500, pacinitaly


    You're actually giving advice in these groups???
     
    Guest, Mar 26, 2009
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  9. pdsnickles

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    ...

    If you had looked up the specifications for the Dell monitor either on the
    documentation you got with the monitor or on their web pages you would have
    found this information along with other specification information at
    http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/monitors/1901FP/en/specs.htm

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    Resolution
    Horizontal scan range 30 kHz to 80 kHz (automatic)
    Vertical scan range 56 Hz to 76 Hz (automatic)
    Optimal preset resolution 1280 x 1024 at 60 Hz
    Highest preset resolution 1280 x 1024 at 75 Hz
    * Highest addressable resolution 1280 x 1024 at 75 Hz


    Connector type 15-pin D-subminiature, blue connector; DVI-D, white connector
    Signal cable type Analog: Detachable, D-sub, 15pin, shipped attached to the
    monitor
    Digital: Detachable, DVI-D, Solid pins, shipped detached from the monitor

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    The VGA monitor port on the image you sent in the second post is a standard
    VGA port which matches with the 15-pin D-subminiature.... above.

    This is a standard resolution for 19 inch 4:3 aspect ratio monitors. Your
    new computer probably will display this resolution. What you may experience
    is that since your computer (and you didn't specify the model anywhere so I
    can't check it.) is a 16:9 aspect ratio monitor, when you hook up and
    display to the 4:3 monitor there may be some minor distortion until you set
    the second monitor information in the video driver settings in Control
    panel.

    My HP Pavilion DV6837cl model will display on my 4:3 monitor and also my 4:3
    projector without any issues at 1280 X 1024 resolution. I have Vista 32
    Ultimate on the system but it worked also when I had the 64 bit version of
    Vista Ultimate on it.
     
    Guest, Mar 26, 2009
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  10. pdsnickles

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    Jake Marley;1002459 Wrote:

    He got it :roflmao:


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  11. pdsnickles

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    LVTravel;1002469 Wrote:
    QZ9sDnrJHA.2368@xxxxxx> > >


    Well written


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    Guest, Mar 26, 2009
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  12. pdsnickles

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    Okay, in the meantime since I read these other responses, I did contact
    HP. Note that their chat system does work 24 hours and they do not
    require a serial number as Dell does. (Dell wanted $49.95 to answer my
    question about their monitor because it is out of warranty.)

    So anyway, the guy at HP told me that the 32bit vs. 64bit issue is not
    an issue with monitors so it will work fine and probably will not even
    ask for drivers.

    So that is good news. I was beginning to become concerned because I am
    finding a few things that are apparently not Vista compatible.

    (By the way, the Vista upgrade advisor tool did not work for me. It
    kept scanning or pretending to and I turned it off after 2 hours. But I
    did try...)

    So far I have found that Dreamweaver 3.0 will not work with Vista. So
    they said at Adobe. It worked fine with XP even though I bought it for
    Windows 98.

    According to an MS site re Vista, Picasa may or may not work. I like
    Picasa! But I'm sure I can live without it if I have to. Or they'll soon
    have a compatible version if it is not currently compatible.

    My Winrar 3.0 may work but according to their site, it does not list
    the version I have as being Vista compatible and if I have to update it
    ain't free.

    Not sure yet about my Solveing MM Video Splitter.

    Have not yet found info on Canon's ZoomBrowser for Canon camera but I
    can probably use something else for free with Vista drivers to download
    and adjust (crop, brighten, etc.) pix. My guess is that Canon probably
    does now or will soon have Vista drivers for my camera, they're usually
    pretty good.

    So really, now that I know the monitor will work, so far Dreamweaver is
    the only expensive thing I'll have to replace, but there are a few
    others I will need to check.

    Guess there is no harm in trying to load some software I have. If it
    does not work it won't harm anything in trying to load it, right?

    Thanks for the feedback. I'm fairly computer literate with XP but know
    NOTHING of Vista and 64 bit vs. 32 bit though I guess I'll be learning.

    XP had "compatibility mode" which allowed me to use Dreamweaver with
    it. Vista has no such compatibility mode?


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    Guest, Mar 26, 2009
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  13. pdsnickles

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    pacinitaly;1002485 Wrote:
    QZ9sDnrJHA.2368@xxxxxx> > > > >
    Just f.y.i., I did not send the image nor is that my computer. Someone
    else sent that.

    And as to the info on the Dell monitor you quoted above, even if I'd
    found it, I, not being as knowledgeable as you, do not see how that says
    it's okay with Vista.

    But thanks for assuring me that it will indeed work with Vista!


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    Guest, Mar 27, 2009
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  14. pdsnickles

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    It should (i do not dare say "will work", but I really expect it to.



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    Guest, Mar 27, 2009
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  15. pdsnickles

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    It should (i do not dare say "will work", but I really expect it to).



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    Guest, Mar 27, 2009
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  16. pdsnickles

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    Winrar 3.0 does work on Vista.

    "pdsnickles" <> a ?crit dans le message de
     
    Guest, Mar 27, 2009
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  17. pdsnickles

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    XP had "compatibility mode" which allowed me to use Dreamweaver with
    it. Vista has no such compatibility mode?




    Actually,Vista has "Program Compatibility Wizard". I could not find it
    too easy on my computer-I had to actualy type it into Help and Support and
    located it that way. I have never tried it,so,I don't know how well it
    works.

    Good Luck!


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  18. pdsnickles

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    All PC monitors have a VGA connection and support the VGA spec which must be
    35 years old and all versions of windows have a built In driver that meets
    this spec so there is not driver to download
    What is different it the resolutions that a particular PC monitor can
    display.
    The actual creation of the display for the standard driver is created by a
    systems graphics card and it's drivers since it is what contains the actual
    VGA output connection.
    So the issue is: do the display drivers on your 64bit version of Vista
    support the resolution over your systems VGA output that you want to use
    with your monitor?
    I am willing to bet that they do since many HP systems are now sold with
    Vista 64 bit installed and without a monitor especially since you have a
    fairly new flat panel monitor.

    news:...
     
    Guest, Mar 27, 2009
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  19. pdsnickles

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    In any case it can be replaced for free by 7-Zip.
     
    Guest, Mar 27, 2009
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  20. pdsnickles

    Guest Guest

    Vista has compatibility modes settings via file or shortcut Properties, same
    as XP. Some older programs may still have other issues that make them
    incompatible with Vista.
     
    Guest, Mar 27, 2009
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