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Thane
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      9th November 2007, 12:01 AM
Hi, Sorry if I’m asking the same question as others, but the point should be
made. Why does Outlook 2002 with all updates etc, not retain the passwords ?
Would it be that hard to fix. Vista has enough bad press, and asking people
to upgrade to fix the problem still does not sound a smooth option, as I see
on here that all outlook Vrs have some sort of issue.
I purchased Vista Ultimate so that I’d have the tools that should enable me
to get to and fix this sort of issue.
I’ve been running XP for years with Outlook and hotmail. It now seems
hotmail is not safe in the newer outlooks ! Mix and confusing messages indeed.

Reading through the issues raised over the past year (ref Vista) the answers
start of on one tack, then another.

Now I read that Outlook 2002 is not compatible and should be upgraded.

This is frankly unacceptable !

This is one way to put off new punters and users alike.

http://www.howto-outlook.com/faq/pas...remembered.htm

http://www.msoutlook.info/question/40

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=290684

 
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Frank Saunders MS-MVP IE,OE/WM
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      9th November 2007, 03:00 AM
"Thane" <> wrote in message
news:184DB357-E988-41BB-BAE0-...
> Hi, Sorry if I’m asking the same question as others, but the point should
> be
> made. Why does Outlook 2002 with all updates etc, not retain the passwords
> ?
> Would it be that hard to fix. Vista has enough bad press, and asking
> people
> to upgrade to fix the problem still does not sound a smooth option, as I
> see
> on here that all outlook Vrs have some sort of issue.
> I purchased Vista Ultimate so that I’d have the tools that should enable
> me
> to get to and fix this sort of issue.
> I’ve been running XP for years with Outlook and hotmail. It now seems
> hotmail is not safe in the newer outlooks ! Mix and confusing messages
> indeed.
>
> Reading through the issues raised over the past year (ref Vista) the
> answers
> start of on one tack, then another.
>
> Now I read that Outlook 2002 is not compatible and should be upgraded.
>
> This is frankly unacceptable !
>
> This is one way to put off new punters and users alike.
>
> http://www.howto-outlook.com/faq/pas...remembered.htm
>
> http://www.msoutlook.info/question/40
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=290684
>


Outlook 2002 is not compatible with the way Vista stores passwords.

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Gary VanderMolen
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      9th November 2007, 07:10 AM
If Microsoft followed your philosophy, they could never upgrade
the security posture of their operating systems.
The older method that Outlook 2002 uses to store passwords is
not compatible with Vista.

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


"Thane" <> wrote in message news:184DB357-E988-41BB-BAE0-...
> Hi, Sorry if I’m asking the same question as others, but the point should be
> made. Why does Outlook 2002 with all updates etc, not retain the passwords ?
> Would it be that hard to fix. Vista has enough bad press, and asking people
> to upgrade to fix the problem still does not sound a smooth option, as I see
> on here that all outlook Vrs have some sort of issue.
> I purchased Vista Ultimate so that I’d have the tools that should enable me
> to get to and fix this sort of issue.
> I’ve been running XP for years with Outlook and hotmail. It now seems
> hotmail is not safe in the newer outlooks ! Mix and confusing messages indeed.
>
> Reading through the issues raised over the past year (ref Vista) the answers
> start of on one tack, then another.
>
> Now I read that Outlook 2002 is not compatible and should be upgraded.
>
> This is frankly unacceptable !
>
> This is one way to put off new punters and users alike.
>
> http://www.howto-outlook.com/faq/pas...remembered.htm
>
> http://www.msoutlook.info/question/40
>
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=290684
>


 
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Thane
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      9th November 2007, 10:34 AM
So MS dictate how securely I run my PC. Do they check that I locked my doors
and closed all my windows at night ? Maybe I want my windows open !

Remember, at first MS said they had solutions, and there are many posts
about this (see below). Now the tact has changed and it will not work.

Again I ask the question, why not fix or options to roll back MY security to
at least XP’s standards. Which I should add has never been attacked, spoofed
or hijacked! (well done XP).

The argument of progress would be fine but for the fact that MS have put
themselves in a Win Win situation. You have already spent your readies on
Vista, so why not go for more with a new copy of Outlook.

Then take a look at the number of problems associated with the new outlook,
and remember, these are the few that have taken the time to com on here and
understand what we are trying to achieve ! What about the millions who do not
have that voice.

I’m disillusioned and dismayed at this self generated ridicules situation
that “some” people are willing to roll over and except with out the bat of an
eye.


"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> If Microsoft followed your philosophy, they could never upgrade
> the security posture of their operating systems.
> The older method that Outlook 2002 uses to store passwords is
> not compatible with Vista.
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]
>
>
> "Thane" <> wrote in message news:184DB357-E988-41BB-BAE0-...
> > Hi, Sorry if I’m asking the same question as others, but the point should be
> > made. Why does Outlook 2002 with all updates etc, not retain the passwords ?
> > Would it be that hard to fix. Vista has enough bad press, and asking people
> > to upgrade to fix the problem still does not sound a smooth option, as I see
> > on here that all outlook Vrs have some sort of issue.
> > I purchased Vista Ultimate so that I’d have the tools that should enable me
> > to get to and fix this sort of issue.
> > I’ve been running XP for years with Outlook and hotmail. It now seems
> > hotmail is not safe in the newer outlooks ! Mix and confusing messages indeed.
> >
> > Reading through the issues raised over the past year (ref Vista) the answers
> > start of on one tack, then another.
> >
> > Now I read that Outlook 2002 is not compatible and should be upgraded.
> >
> > This is frankly unacceptable !
> >
> > This is one way to put off new punters and users alike.
> >
> > http://www.howto-outlook.com/faq/pas...remembered.htm
> >
> > http://www.msoutlook.info/question/40
> >
> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=290684
> >

>
>

 
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Gary VanderMolen
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      9th November 2007, 09:54 PM
Yes, MS gets to dictate the baseline security of their OS.
That concept is similar to requiring people to wear seatbelts in cars.
The hacker/malware thugs are getting more sophisticated, which
means the OS needs to become more secure.
If you degrade the security of your PC, it doesn't just hurt you.
It makes your PC vulnerable to being taken over by a bot, which
turns your PC into a zombie which sends more spam and viruses
to the rest of the world

--
Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]


"Thane" <> wrote in message news:510FC8BF-E0E1-49F1-85DE-...
> So MS dictate how securely I run my PC. Do they check that I locked my doors
> and closed all my windows at night ? Maybe I want my windows open !
>
> Remember, at first MS said they had solutions, and there are many posts
> about this (see below). Now the tact has changed and it will not work.
>
> Again I ask the question, why not fix or options to roll back MY security to
> at least XP’s standards. Which I should add has never been attacked, spoofed
> or hijacked! (well done XP).
>
> The argument of progress would be fine but for the fact that MS have put
> themselves in a Win Win situation. You have already spent your readies on
> Vista, so why not go for more with a new copy of Outlook.
>
> Then take a look at the number of problems associated with the new outlook,
> and remember, these are the few that have taken the time to com on here and
> understand what we are trying to achieve ! What about the millions who do not
> have that voice.
>
> I’m disillusioned and dismayed at this self generated ridicules situation
> that “some” people are willing to roll over and except with out the bat of an
> eye.
>
>
> "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
>
>> If Microsoft followed your philosophy, they could never upgrade
>> the security posture of their operating systems.
>> The older method that Outlook 2002 uses to store passwords is
>> not compatible with Vista.
>>
>> --
>> Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]
>>
>>
>> "Thane" <> wrote in message news:184DB357-E988-41BB-BAE0-...
>> > Hi, Sorry if I’m asking the same question as others, but the point should be
>> > made. Why does Outlook 2002 with all updates etc, not retain the passwords ?
>> > Would it be that hard to fix. Vista has enough bad press, and asking people
>> > to upgrade to fix the problem still does not sound a smooth option, as I see
>> > on here that all outlook Vrs have some sort of issue.
>> > I purchased Vista Ultimate so that I’d have the tools that should enable me
>> > to get to and fix this sort of issue.
>> > I’ve been running XP for years with Outlook and hotmail. It now seems
>> > hotmail is not safe in the newer outlooks ! Mix and confusing messages indeed.
>> >
>> > Reading through the issues raised over the past year (ref Vista) the answers
>> > start of on one tack, then another.
>> >
>> > Now I read that Outlook 2002 is not compatible and should be upgraded.
>> >
>> > This is frankly unacceptable !
>> >
>> > This is one way to put off new punters and users alike.
>> >
>> > http://www.howto-outlook.com/faq/pas...remembered.htm
>> >
>> > http://www.msoutlook.info/question/40
>> >
>> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=290684
>> >

>>
>>


 
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      10th November 2007, 07:13 PM
If that where true I'd agree and shut up. but as you can still see in the
link is still active that says it shoudl work and how to sort it out.

http://support.microsoft.com/?id=290684

Also, as it happens I have had issues with samba file support on NAS
servers, and you guessed it, I'm told by MS suppost that I should switch down
my secrity to the same as XP.

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Lsa (DWORD = 1)
Which changes the network security to send "LM & NTLM responses"

Conflicting statments, although in different areas... seems that my
statement still standards, MS will take the easy route with Vista and does
not think about the past and cost for its customers.

MS shoudl wake up, look around you, people love and relate to the past.
Change for change sake is not good.

You will be tellin me next that I cannot use word... and that I should
upgrade office completely next... well not thanks.. I have seen the reports
about Excel not giving the correct values thanks. just try 850*77.1 and you
will see what I mean !

I guess I'll run OUTLOOK in VirtualBox or MS Virtual 200 (which is free). Or
will you say stop, BLUE PILL !

Sorry but your not going to change my mind. This is bad on MS side....END

"Gary VanderMolen" wrote:

> Yes, MS gets to dictate the baseline security of their OS.
> That concept is similar to requiring people to wear seatbelts in cars.
> The hacker/malware thugs are getting more sophisticated, which
> means the OS needs to become more secure.
> If you degrade the security of your PC, it doesn't just hurt you.
> It makes your PC vulnerable to being taken over by a bot, which
> turns your PC into a zombie which sends more spam and viruses
> to the rest of the world
>
> --
> Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]
>
>
> "Thane" <> wrote in message news:510FC8BF-E0E1-49F1-85DE-...
> > So MS dictate how securely I run my PC. Do they check that I locked my doors
> > and closed all my windows at night ? Maybe I want my windows open !
> >
> > Remember, at first MS said they had solutions, and there are many posts
> > about this (see below). Now the tact has changed and it will not work.
> >
> > Again I ask the question, why not fix or options to roll back MY security to
> > at least XP’s standards. Which I should add has never been attacked, spoofed
> > or hijacked! (well done XP).
> >
> > The argument of progress would be fine but for the fact that MS have put
> > themselves in a Win Win situation. You have already spent your readies on
> > Vista, so why not go for more with a new copy of Outlook.
> >
> > Then take a look at the number of problems associated with the new outlook,
> > and remember, these are the few that have taken the time to com on here and
> > understand what we are trying to achieve ! What about the millions who do not
> > have that voice.
> >
> > I’m disillusioned and dismayed at this self generated ridicules situation
> > that “some” people are willing to roll over and except with out the bat of an
> > eye.
> >
> >
> > "Gary VanderMolen" wrote:
> >
> >> If Microsoft followed your philosophy, they could never upgrade
> >> the security posture of their operating systems.
> >> The older method that Outlook 2002 uses to store passwords is
> >> not compatible with Vista.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Gary VanderMolen [MS-MVP WLM]
> >>
> >>
> >> "Thane" <> wrote in message news:184DB357-E988-41BB-BAE0-...
> >> > Hi, Sorry if I’m asking the same question as others, but the point should be
> >> > made. Why does Outlook 2002 with all updates etc, not retain the passwords ?
> >> > Would it be that hard to fix. Vista has enough bad press, and asking people
> >> > to upgrade to fix the problem still does not sound a smooth option, as I see
> >> > on here that all outlook Vrs have some sort of issue.
> >> > I purchased Vista Ultimate so that I’d have the tools that should enable me
> >> > to get to and fix this sort of issue.
> >> > I’ve been running XP for years with Outlook and hotmail. It now seems
> >> > hotmail is not safe in the newer outlooks ! Mix and confusing messages indeed.
> >> >
> >> > Reading through the issues raised over the past year (ref Vista) the answers
> >> > start of on one tack, then another.
> >> >
> >> > Now I read that Outlook 2002 is not compatible and should be upgraded.
> >> >
> >> > This is frankly unacceptable !
> >> >
> >> > This is one way to put off new punters and users alike.
> >> >
> >> > http://www.howto-outlook.com/faq/pas...remembered.htm
> >> >
> >> > http://www.msoutlook.info/question/40
> >> >
> >> > http://support.microsoft.com/?id=290684
> >> >
> >>
> >>

>
>

 
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