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| | Than you i know i can recover xp with the installation cd, but i want to be able to have dual boot, VISTA AND XP. Its there a way to edit something make the boot loader to detect my XP OS, and as to why BCDEDIT saids that it cant read the imformation? Man this weird previous builds dint had this problems at all, now if i want to boot VISTA after fixing MY XP OS, i can just pop the cd and use the recover consola that the windows VISTA has. but i dont want too, i want a dual anyone have some clues, please help here. thank you
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| I installed Vista 5308 through booting the DVD using the bios, not from within Windows. The whole detection thing is a Myth.
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| RE*S.T.A.R.S*2 (4/5/2006)
Than you i know i can recover xp with the installation cd, but i want to be able to have dual boot, VISTA AND XP. Its there a way to edit something make the boot loader to detect my XP OS, and as to why BCDEDIT saids that it cant read the imformation?
Man this weird previous builds dint had this problems at all, now if i want to boot VISTA after fixing MY XP OS, i can just pop the cd and use the recover consola that the windows VISTA has. but i dont want too, i want a dual anyone have some clues, please help here. thank you
I know what you mean, but what happened was vista overwrote your xp bootloader so you will never be able to load xp unless you repair the install from the cd. You cannot edit bcdedit to make it recognize the install if the bootloader is now gone. If its saying "ntldr is missing" then its pointing to the correct OS and it knows where it is and that it exists, but the boot loader for xp is gone or has been over written, ntldr is the bootloader. Hope that heps
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| How should I proceed if I want the following 4 OSes?
1. Win XP
2. Win XP 64
3. Vista
4. Ubuntu 6.06
Will this installation order work?
XP then XP64 then vista and finally Ubuntu?
Will multiboot work and will GRUB recognize the vista loader?
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| Just install them in that order and you should be ok. I found an exert from a page on google about booting Ubuntu and Vista.
"Vista will overwrite grub though, so that will need to be re-installed. You should make a ubuntu boot disk, and then when you upgrade vista, you can boot into ubuntu, and use grub-install (or some other method, ie, grub shell) to install grub back to the MBR."
From there you should follow the directions on this site about editing bcdedit or the other method of right clicking on "my computer" and going to startup/recovery options. You may not need to do this it depends on if Vista detects your legacy OS's and adds them to the bootloader automaticlly.
The quadruple boot could get complicated tho, I dont know if anyone has done it yet.
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| | Check out the new User Friendly BCEDIT GUI program as a free download from PROnetworks. http://www.pro-networks.org/vistabootpro/intro.php Note: This made my Tri Boot (Windows Server 2003, Windows XP, Windows Vista), go very smoothly. I have not worked up enough nerve to try to add my Fedora Core (Linux) Load into the mix but will keep you updated if I do. |
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| | Ok, I have a similar issue with booting and kinda understand what i did wrong but not sure of the best way to resolve. I had a pc with xp pro 32 on c drive primary partition, then installed xp pro 64 on a second partition and also suse 10.1 on additional partitions. Everything was hunky dory but as xp64 and suse were doing great and vista was just out and free to download beta 2, me thinks i'll just install it over the xp32 and have vista, xp64 and suse. Now the install for vista took ages but it did finish. However it replaced my suse bootloader and only left me with the option to load into vista. Basically in my haste to install vista, i overlooked the fact that i would be overwriting the ntldr on the c drive of my xp32 installation which booted my xp64 also with the new vista bcd. Using bcdedit I have managed to add entries for the "legacy" windows and point it to the correct drive (D where the xp64 is installed, have also created a boot.ini file on the root of this drive telling the system that XP is on the second partition of this drive. However, I get the message that "NTLDR" is missing when i chose this option from the vista menu. It seems that I will be able to get the xp64 to load if I can restore the ntldr on the 2nd partition but I am not too sure how to do this, so would also appreciate suggestions.Have heard and downloaded a file called fixntldr.exe but not sure exactly how to use it, i do not have the option to boot from floppy. Also, I am aware that the ntldr & boot.ini combo cannot load vista but is it possible to load "legacy" windows without the ntldr and boot.ini files using just bcd, i.e. can I add some settings into bcd and get it and vista's loader (\Windows\system32\winload.exe) to load "legacy" windows without having to restore ntldr and boot.ini? As for SUSE, well I am quite new to linux and it isn't as vital as the xp64 pro at the moment, but any suggestions on that would also e welcome. Thanks in advance. |
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Ok,I have a similar issue with booting and kinda understand what i did wrong but not sure of the best way to resolve.
I had a pc with xp pro 32 on c drive primary partition, then installed xp pro 64 on a second partition and also suse 10.1 on additional partitions. Everything was hunky dory but as xp64 and suse were doing great and vista was just out and free to download beta 2, me thinks i'll just install it over the xp32 and have vista, xp64 and suse.
Now the install for vista took ages but it did finish.However it replaced my suse bootloader and only left me with the option to load into vista. Basically in my haste to install vista, i overlooked the fact that i would be overwriting the ntldr on the c drive of my xp32 installation which booted my xp64 also with the new vista bcd.
Using bcdedit I have managed to add entries for the "legacy" windows and point it to the correct drive (D where the xp64 is installed, have also created a boot.ini file on the root of this drive telling the system that XP is on the second partition of this drive.
However, I get the message that "NTLDR" is missing when i chose this option from the vista menu. It seems that Iwill be able to get the xp64 to load if I can restore the ntldr on the 2nd partition but I am not too sure how to do this, so would also appreciate suggestions.Have heard and downloaded a file called fixntldr.exe but not sure exactly how to use it, i do not have the option to boot from floppy.
Also, I am aware that the ntldr & boot.ini combocannot load vista but is it possible to load "legacy" windows without the ntldr and boot.ini files using just bcd, i.e. can I add some settings into bcd and get it and vista's loader ( \Windows\system32\winload.exe)to load "legacy" windows without having to restore ntldr and boot.ini?
As for SUSE, well I am quite new to linux and it isn't as vital as the xp64 pro at the moment, but any suggestions on that would also e welcome.
Thanks in advance.
The way it works is that BCDedit still points to nyldt and boot.ini to run legacy OS's but it uses the bcdedit interface when it first boots up. You can try putting in your xp cd and going into the recovery console,(don't press "R", that means repair) and copying the ntldr from your cd..Follow these steps:
1. Insert the Windows XP bootable CD into the computer.
2. When prompted to press any key to boot from the CD, press any key.
3. Once in the Windows XP setup menu press the "R" key to repair Windows.
4. Log into your Windows installation by pressing the "1" key and pressing enter.
5. You will then be prompted for your administrator password, enter that password.
6. Copy the below two files to the root directory of the primary hard disk. In the below example we are copying these files from the CD-ROM drive letter "E". This letter may be different on your computer.
copy e:\i386tldr c:\
copy e:\i386tdetect.com c:\
7. Once both of these files have been successfully copied, remove the CD from the computer and reboot.
If that doesnt work you can try other things in the recovery console such as Fixboot and bootcfg, just type "Help" and run whatever you can which involves the boot.
Obviously change the drive letters to whatever you are using. If that doesnt work, then its the same problem I had, you are going to want to go ahead and repair the xp x64 by using the cd and going to the repair option, this restores all the the orignal setting os the xp pro x64 install, and retains all your settings/files/programs. This will get xp pro x64 running again, then when you want to install vista, boot up xp pro x64, and while in xp pro x64 insert the vista cd and install it that way. Sometimes when booting from the cd and not from within xp it doesnt recognize other installations.
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