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I want to install Windows 7.I have 2 Hard Drives, both are portioned in 2 .
If I install windows 7 by booting into Vista, inserting the Windows 7 DVD
and run setup.
This way I can assign drive letters that I will want to use consistently in
both Operating Systems
I am a little bit confused after reading about installing Win 7. If I boot
from Win 7 DVD it will assign the letter C: to its Boot Volume, no matter
what drive I choose.
Then it says to assign D: to the start volume. The other letters will be in
sequence.
Does that mean I need to put Win & Boot Volume on the same drive as Vista's
Boot Volume?? I do not think that is the case. I rather check first.
As of now I have First Drive Portioned in to C: and D:
Second Drive Portioned into E: and F:.
I want to install Win 7 on the second drive in part ion 1 which is E:
When I install from Vista I just have to check E: Drive and the Boot Volume
will be on E: too. Hopefully I will have the choice to boot into Vista or
Win 7??
I would also like to give the Drives Names:
Drive 1 Portion 1 Big Vista - Which is C:
Drive 1 Partition 2 Little Vista - Which is D:
Drive 2 Partition 1 Big Win 7 - Which is E:
Drive 2 Partition 2 Little Win 7 -Which is F:
This way I will know exactly which is which, even if Vista calls Big Vista
C and Little Vista D: Also if Win 7 calls it Big Win 7 H:
I hope I explained myself??
Thank You in advance
Doug
P.S. I previously read an answer to this from RC
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Your Talking about a dual boot.
W7 will install onto E but it will write its boot files to C in order to
create the dual boot,
The other thing is that when you start with W7 it will list itself as being
on C
When you start with Vista it will list itself as being on C
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Hi, Doug.
It's good to know that someone is reading my long posts. ;^}
And it sounds like you understand the general scheme of Windows dual-booting
better than most users.
More comments inline...
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Right! This is how I originally installed Vista into Drive V:, alongside
WinXP, which was already using Drive D:. I long ago adopted the practice of
having nothing in my System Volume except the startup files. All OSes are
installed in my other volumes.
Recognize that your Boot Volume will not always be Drive C:. That is not a
problem at all for Windows. It is a problem only for users who can't shake
off the "Drive C: mindset". Applications will happily install themselves
into X:\Program Files as easily as into C:\Program Files. ;<)
So decide which letters you want to use; boot into Vista and use Disk
Management to create and format the volumes and assign those letters. Then
insert the Win7 DVD and point it to the volume you've chosen.
Yes. IF you boot from the DVD. When you boot from the Win7 DVD, it has no
idea what Vista has assigned. If you boot into Vista, then insert the DVD
and run Setup from the Vista desktop, it will see the drive letters that
Vista has assigned and "inherit" those letters. So if you've used Vista to
assign the letter E: to the first partition on your second HDD, you can
point Setup to that partition (watch closely to be sure that you are picking
the right partition on the right disk). When done, Win7's Boot Volume will
be E:, its boot folder will be E:\Windows, and the Start Volume will still
be whatever it was - probably still Drive C:.
Yes. An OS can't have two Drive C:'s. If you want the Start Volume to
remain Drive C:...see previous paragraph.
NO. The fact that the first partition on the first disk is now serving as
both System Volume and Vista's Boot Volume is muddying the waters. And
having that first partition assigned Drive C: is not making the water any
clearer. But that IS the typical arrangement, rooted in computer hard-drive
history and still the default configuration for most new computers with
Windows pre-installed.
Win7's Boot Volume can be in any partition on any HDD in your computer.
Only the Start Volume must be in a specific place. When the computer is
powered on, all it remembers is what was programmed at the factory: Look
for the Active partition on the boot device. Unless the user has changed
the BIOS, that means the first partition on the first HDD - and this
partition becomes the System Volume. The first physical sector on that
partition holds the MBR (Master Boot Record), including the partition table.
Load that and start executing its code - which will find the file bootmgr
(no extension) in the Root of that partition, which will use the BCD (Boot
Configuration Data) in the hidden \Boot folder to select from the existing
Windows installations and jump to the Boot Volume where the chosen version
is installed - which might be any partition on any HDD.
Correct! Boot into Vista, insert the Win7 DVD, and point to "Big Win 7
(E " - also shown as partition 1 on Disk 1 - see my next comment. Setup
will do the rest, including the dual-boot menu that will appear at your next
startup.
Subtle correction: As you can see in Disk Management, physical disk
numbering starts with zero; partition numbering starts with one on each
physical disk. So your Big Vista is on Disk 0 Partition 1 and Little Win7
is on Disk 1 Partition 2. Call the physical device a "Disk" to give the
greatly-overused term "drive" a little rest and reduce the confusion just a
little. Disks are NUMBERED; "drives" (which really are "primary partitions"
or "logical drives in the extended partition" or "volumes") are assigned
LETTERS. (Well, usually; drives don't have to have letters. When installed
on a virgin computer, Win7 Setup creates a small separate primary partition
just for the Start Volume and does not assign a letter to it; this makes it
harder for a user to accidentally delete that critical volume or to store
apps or data on it.)
Right! By George, I think you've got it! Vista will also call it "Big Win
7 (H". And H:\Windows will be your Win7 Boot Folder!
Yep!
Post back and let us know how this all worked out, Doug.
RC
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was going to install this evening but something else came up as usual.
I had Win 7 since the second day of release and still have not installed it.
I would like to go with naming the drives and loading 7 from Vista. At least
I will know which drive is which. The other way installing from Win 7 DVD.
Each OS will have same letters for drives, but the drives will not be the
same as the letters??I think
Thanks for all the help.
Will let you know how it works out.
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it is very simple to use Computer Management Disk Management to =
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I would boot from the W7 DVD and point the install to your desired =
drive/partition.
mikeyhsd@lamparty.net
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> Hi, Doug.
>
> It's good to know that someone is reading my long posts. ;^}
>
> And it sounds like you understand the general scheme of Windows=20
> dual-booting better than most users.
>
> More comments inline...
>
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>> .
>>
>> If I install windows 7 by booting into Vista, inserting the Windows =
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>> and run setup.
>>
>> This way I can assign drive letters that I will want to use =
consistently=20
>> in both Operating Systems
>
> Right! This is how I originally installed Vista into Drive V:, =
alongside=20
> WinXP, which was already using Drive D:. I long ago adopted the =
practice=20
> of having nothing in my System Volume except the startup files. All =
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>
> Recognize that your Boot Volume will not always be Drive C:. That =
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> shake off the "Drive C: mindset". Applications will happily install =
> themselves into X:\Program Files as easily as into C:\Program Files. =
;<)
>
> So decide which letters you want to use; boot into Vista and use =
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> Management to create and format the volumes and assign those =
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> Then insert the Win7 DVD and point it to the volume you've chosen.
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>> I am a little bit confused after reading about installing Win 7. If =
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>
> Yes. IF you boot from the DVD. When you boot from the Win7 DVD, it =
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>> Then it says to assign D: to the start volume. The other letters =
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>> in sequence.
>
> Yes. An OS can't have two Drive C:'s. If you want the Start Volume =
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>
>> Does that mean I need to put Win & Boot Volume on the same drive as =
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>
> NO. The fact that the first partition on the first disk is now =
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> having that first partition assigned Drive C: is not making the =
water any=20
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> hard-drive history and still the default configuration for most new=20
> computers with Windows pre-installed.
>
> Win7's Boot Volume can be in any partition on any HDD in your =
computer.=20
> Only the Start Volume must be in a specific place. When the =
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from=20
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the=20
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>
>> As of now I have First Drive Portioned in to C: and D:
>>
>> Second Drive Portioned into E: and F:.
>>
>> I want to install Win 7 on the second drive in part ion 1 which is =
E:
>>
>> When I install from Vista I just have to check E: Drive and the =
Boot=20
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>
> Correct! Boot into Vista, insert the Win7 DVD, and point to "Big =
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> (E" - also shown as partition 1 on Disk 1 - see my next comment. =
Setup=20
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your=20
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>
>> I would also like to give the Drives Names:
>> Drive 1 Portion 1 Big Vista - Which is C:
>> Drive 1 Partition 2 Little Vista - Which is D:
>>
>> Drive 2 Partition 1 Big Win 7 - Which is E:
>> Drive 2 Partition 2 Little Win 7 -Which is F:
>
> Subtle correction: As you can see in Disk Management, physical disk =
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each=20
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Little Win7=20
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just=20
> a little. Disks are NUMBERED; "drives" (which really are "primary=20
> partitions" or "logical drives in the extended partition" or =
"volumes")=20
> are assigned LETTERS. (Well, usually; drives don't have to have =
letters.=20
> When installed on a virgin computer, Win7 Setup creates a small =
separate=20
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letter=20
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> critical volume or to store apps or data on it.)
>
>> This way I will know exactly which is which, even if Vista calls =
Big=20
>> Vista C and Little Vista D: Also if Win 7 calls it Big Win 7 H:
>
> Right! By George, I think you've got it! Vista will also call it =
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> Win 7 (H". And H:\Windows will be your Win7 Boot Folder!
>
>> I hope I explained myself??
>
> Yep!
>
>> Thank You in advance
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> P.S. I previously read an answer to this from RC
>
> Post back and let us know how this all worked out, Doug.
>
> RC
> --=20
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64
was going to install this evening but something else came up as =
usual.
I had Win 7 since the second day of release and still have not =
installed it.
I would like to go with naming the drives and loading 7 from Vista. At =
least=20
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DVD.=20
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the=20
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Thanks for all the help.
Will let you know how it works out.
Doug
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>> If I install windows 7 by =
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>>
>> This way I can assign drive letters =
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>
> Right! This is how I originally =
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> WinXP, which was already using Drive =
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>
> Recognize that your Boot Volume =
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> shake =
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> So decide which letters you want to use; boot =
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to the=20
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>> I am a little bit confused =
after=20
reading about installing Win 7. If I
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it will=20
assign the letter C: to its Boot Volume, no
>> matter what =
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choose.
>
> Yes. IF you boot from the DVD. =
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boot from the Win7 DVD, it has
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assigned. =20
If you boot into Vista, then insert the
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> Vista to =
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>> Then it says to assign D: to the start volume. =
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>
> =
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>> Does =
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still the default configuration for most new
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>
> Win7's Boot Volume can be in any =
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> Only the Start Volume must be in a =
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folder to=20
select from
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the Boot=20
Volume where the
> chosen version is installed - which might be =
any=20
partition on any HDD.
>
>> As of now I have First=20
Drive Portioned in to C: and D:
>>
>> =
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Drive Portioned into E: and F:.
>>
>> I want to =
install Win=20
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E:
>>
>> When I=20
install from Vista I just have to check E: Drive and the Boot =
>>=20
Volume will be on E: too. Hopefully I will have the choice to boot =
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>> Vista or Win 7??
>
> Correct! Boot into =
Vista,=20
insert the Win7 DVD, and point to "Big Win 7
> (E" - also =
shown as=20
partition 1 on Disk 1 - see my next comment. Setup
> will =
do the=20
rest, including the dual-boot menu that will appear at your
> =
next=20
startup.
>
>> I would also like to give the Drives=20
Names:
>> Drive 1 Portion 1 Big =
Vista -=20
Which is C:
>> Drive 1 Partition 2 Little Vista - =
Which=20
is D:
>>
>> Drive 2 Partition 1 Big Win =
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Which is E:
>> Drive 2 Partition 2 Little Win 7 -Which =
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F:
>
> Subtle correction: As you can see in Disk =
Management,=20
physical disk
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starts=20
with one on each
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Call the=20
physical device a "Disk" to give the
> greatly-overused term =
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little rest and reduce the confusion just
> a little. =
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NUMBERED; "drives" (which really are "primary
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> are assigned=20
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>=20
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that
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it.)
>
>> This way I will know exactly which is =
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even if Vista calls Big
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D: Also if Win 7 calls it Big Win 7 =
H:
>
>=20
Right! By George, I think you've got it! Vista will also =
call it=20
"Big
> Win 7 (H". And H:\Windows will be your Win7 Boot =
Folder!
>
>> I hope I explained =
myself??
>
>=20
Yep!
>
>> Thank You in advance
>>
>>=20
Doug
>>
>> P.S. I previously read an answer to this =
from=20
RC
>
> Post back and let us know how this all worked out,=20
Doug.
>
> RC
> --
> R. C. White, CPA
> =
San=20
Marcos, TX
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> =
Microsoft Windows=20
MVP
> Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate=20
x64
was going to install this evening but something =
else came=20
up as usual.
I had Win 7 since the second day of release and =
still have=20
not installed it.
I would like to go with naming the drives and =
loading=20
7 from Vista. At least
I will know which drive is which. The other =
way=20
installing from Win 7 DVD.
Each OS will have same letters for =
drives, but=20
the drives will not be the
same as the letters??I =
think
Thanks for=20
all the help.
Will let you know how it works=20
out.
Doug
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I changed the names of the drives and booted from Vista the Win 7 DVD. It
all went smooth. Now Vista and Win 7 both recognize Partition names and
letters as the same.
One question. I know it is the wrong group. I have not installed and dual
booted since XP. I forgot how to change how many seconds you have to select
Vista or Win 7 on Boot .
Thanks Again for the help
Doug
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left side Advanced System Settings
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Startup/recovery button at bottom.
mikeyhsd@lamparty.net
RC
I changed the names of the drives and booted from Vista the Win 7 DVD. =
It=20
all went smooth. Now Vista and Win 7 both recognize Partition names =
and=20
letters as the same.
One question. I know it is the wrong group. I have not installed and =
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Thanks Again for the help
Doug
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> Hi, Doug.
>
> It's good to know that someone is reading my long posts. ;^}
>
> And it sounds like you understand the general scheme of Windows=20
> dual-booting better than most users.
>
> More comments inline...
>
> news:zA71buXKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> I want to install Windows 7.I have 2 Hard Drives, both are =
portioned in 2=20
>> .
>>
>> If I install windows 7 by booting into Vista, inserting the Windows =
7 DVD=20
>> and run setup.
>>
>> This way I can assign drive letters that I will want to use =
consistently=20
>> in both Operating Systems
>
> Right! This is how I originally installed Vista into Drive V:, =
alongside=20
> WinXP, which was already using Drive D:. I long ago adopted the =
practice=20
> of having nothing in my System Volume except the startup files. All =
OSes=20
> are installed in my other volumes.
>
> Recognize that your Boot Volume will not always be Drive C:. That =
is not=20
> a problem at all for Windows. It is a problem only for users who =
can't=20
> shake off the "Drive C: mindset". Applications will happily install =
> themselves into X:\Program Files as easily as into C:\Program Files. =
;<)
>
> So decide which letters you want to use; boot into Vista and use =
Disk=20
> Management to create and format the volumes and assign those =
letters.=20
> Then insert the Win7 DVD and point it to the volume you've chosen.
>
>> I am a little bit confused after reading about installing Win 7. If =
I=20
>> boot from Win 7 DVD it will assign the letter C: to its Boot =
Volume, no=20
>> matter what drive I choose.
>
> Yes. IF you boot from the DVD. When you boot from the Win7 DVD, it =
has=20
> no idea what Vista has assigned. If you boot into Vista, then =
insert the=20
> DVD and run Setup from the Vista desktop, it will see the drive =
letters=20
> that Vista has assigned and "inherit" those letters. So if you've =
used=20
> Vista to assign the letter E: to the first partition on your second =
HDD,=20
> you can point Setup to that partition (watch closely to be sure that =
you=20
> are picking the right partition on the right disk). When done, =
Win7's=20
> Boot Volume will be E:, its boot folder will be E:\Windows, and the =
Start=20
> Volume will still be whatever it was - probably still Drive C:.
>
>> Then it says to assign D: to the start volume. The other letters =
will be=20
>> in sequence.
>
> Yes. An OS can't have two Drive C:'s. If you want the Start Volume =
to=20
> remain Drive C:...see previous paragraph.
>
>> Does that mean I need to put Win & Boot Volume on the same drive as =
>> Vista's Boot Volume?? I do not think that is the case. I rather =
check=20
>> first.
>
> NO. The fact that the first partition on the first disk is now =
serving as=20
> both System Volume and Vista's Boot Volume is muddying the waters. =
And=20
> having that first partition assigned Drive C: is not making the =
water any=20
> clearer. But that IS the typical arrangement, rooted in computer=20
> hard-drive history and still the default configuration for most new=20
> computers with Windows pre-installed.
>
> Win7's Boot Volume can be in any partition on any HDD in your =
computer.=20
> Only the Start Volume must be in a specific place. When the =
computer is=20
> powered on, all it remembers is what was programmed at the factory: =
Look=20
> for the Active partition on the boot device. Unless the user has =
changed=20
> the BIOS, that means the first partition on the first HDD - and this =
> partition becomes the System Volume. The first physical sector on =
that=20
> partition holds the MBR (Master Boot Record), including the =
partition=20
> table. Load that and start executing its code - which will find the =
file=20
> bootmgr (no extension) in the Root of that partition, which will use =
the=20
> BCD (Boot Configuration Data) in the hidden \Boot folder to select =
from=20
> the existing Windows installations and jump to the Boot Volume where =
the=20
> chosen version is installed - which might be any partition on any =
HDD.
>
>> As of now I have First Drive Portioned in to C: and D:
>>
>> Second Drive Portioned into E: and F:.
>>
>> I want to install Win 7 on the second drive in part ion 1 which is =
E:
>>
>> When I install from Vista I just have to check E: Drive and the =
Boot=20
>> Volume will be on E: too. Hopefully I will have the choice to boot =
into=20
>> Vista or Win 7??
>
> Correct! Boot into Vista, insert the Win7 DVD, and point to "Big =
Win 7=20
> (E" - also shown as partition 1 on Disk 1 - see my next comment. =
Setup=20
> will do the rest, including the dual-boot menu that will appear at =
your=20
> next startup.
>
>> I would also like to give the Drives Names:
>> Drive 1 Portion 1 Big Vista - Which is C:
>> Drive 1 Partition 2 Little Vista - Which is D:
>>
>> Drive 2 Partition 1 Big Win 7 - Which is E:
>> Drive 2 Partition 2 Little Win 7 -Which is F:
>
> Subtle correction: As you can see in Disk Management, physical disk =
> numbering starts with zero; partition numbering starts with one on =
each=20
> physical disk. So your Big Vista is on Disk 0 Partition 1 and =
Little Win7=20
> is on Disk 1 Partition 2. Call the physical device a "Disk" to give =
the=20
> greatly-overused term "drive" a little rest and reduce the confusion =
just=20
> a little. Disks are NUMBERED; "drives" (which really are "primary=20
> partitions" or "logical drives in the extended partition" or =
"volumes")=20
> are assigned LETTERS. (Well, usually; drives don't have to have =
letters.=20
> When installed on a virgin computer, Win7 Setup creates a small =
separate=20
> primary partition just for the Start Volume and does not assign a =
letter=20
> to it; this makes it harder for a user to accidentally delete that=20
> critical volume or to store apps or data on it.)
>
>> This way I will know exactly which is which, even if Vista calls =
Big=20
>> Vista C and Little Vista D: Also if Win 7 calls it Big Win 7 H:
>
> Right! By George, I think you've got it! Vista will also call it =
"Big=20
> Win 7 (H". And H:\Windows will be your Win7 Boot Folder!
>
>> I hope I explained myself??
>
> Yep!
>
>> Thank You in advance
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> P.S. I previously read an answer to this from RC
>
> Post back and let us know how this all worked out, Doug.
>
> RC
> --=20
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
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> It's good to know that someone is reading my =
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>>
>> If I install windows 7 by =
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>>
>> This way I can assign drive letters =
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>
> Right! This is how I originally =
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>
> Recognize that your Boot Volume =
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> So decide which letters you want to use; boot =
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> Then insert the Win7 DVD and point it =
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>> I am a little bit confused =
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reading about installing Win 7. If I
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>
> Yes. IF you boot from the DVD. =
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boot from the Win7 DVD, it has
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assigned. =20
If you boot into Vista, then insert the
> DVD and run Setup =
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> that Vista has =
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and "inherit" those letters. So if you've used
> Vista to =
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> Boot Volume will be E:, its boot folder will be E:\Windows, =
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C:.
>
>> Then it says to assign D: to the start volume. =
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>
> =
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>
>> Does =
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>> =
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>
> NO. The fact that the first partition on =
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> having that first =
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still the default configuration for most new
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>
> Win7's Boot Volume can be in any =
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any HDD in your computer.
> Only the Start Volume must be in a =
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select from
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>>
>> =
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>>
>> I want to =
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>>
>> When I=20
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>> Vista or Win 7??
>
> Correct! Boot into =
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> will =
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rest, including the dual-boot menu that will appear at your
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startup.
>
>> I would also like to give the Drives=20
Names:
>> Drive 1 Portion 1 Big =
Vista -=20
Which is C:
>> Drive 1 Partition 2 Little Vista - =
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is D:
>>
>> Drive 2 Partition 1 Big Win =
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Which is E:
>> Drive 2 Partition 2 Little Win 7 -Which =
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F:
>
> Subtle correction: As you can see in Disk =
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> greatly-overused term =
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> a little. =
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NUMBERED; "drives" (which really are "primary
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> are assigned=20
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When installed on a virgin computer, Win7 Setup creates a small =
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>
>> This way I will know exactly which is =
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D: Also if Win 7 calls it Big Win 7 =
H:
>
>=20
Right! By George, I think you've got it! Vista will also =
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"Big
> Win 7 (H". And H:\Windows will be your Win7 Boot =
Folder!
>
>> I hope I explained =
myself??
>
>=20
Yep!
>
>> Thank You in advance
>>
>>=20
Doug
>>
>> P.S. I previously read an answer to this =
from=20
RC
>
> Post back and let us know how this all worked out,=20
Doug.
>
> RC
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You can't rely on drive letters being the same in different OS's on
multi-boot systems. The best way is to label the drives as you have
mentioned then don't worry about the drive letters.
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Hi Mikeyhsd,
I appreciate the help.The last time I set a machine to dul bootm was =
about 5 years.I think it use to be done threw a Cmd or registry,If I =
remember correctly??
That old age catches up rather quickly.\
Peace
Doug
WINDOWS KEY + PAUSE/BREAK key
left side Advanced System Settings
Advanced tab at top
Startup/recovery button at bottom.
mikeyhsd@lamparty.net
RC
I changed the names of the drives and booted from Vista the Win 7 =
DVD. It=20
all went smooth. Now Vista and Win 7 both recognize Partition names =
and=20
letters as the same.
One question. I know it is the wrong group. I have not installed and =
dual=20
booted since XP. I forgot how to change how many seconds you have to =
select=20
Vista or Win 7 on Boot .
Thanks Again for the help
Doug
news:MbhO0wXKHA.3676@TK2MSFTNGP05.phx.gbl...
> Hi, Doug.
>
> It's good to know that someone is reading my long posts. ;^}
>
> And it sounds like you understand the general scheme of Windows=20
> dual-booting better than most users.
>
> More comments inline...
>
> news:zA71buXKHA.504@TK2MSFTNGP06.phx.gbl...
>> I want to install Windows 7.I have 2 Hard Drives, both are =
portioned in 2=20
>> .
>>
>> If I install windows 7 by booting into Vista, inserting the =
Windows 7 DVD=20
>> and run setup.
>>
>> This way I can assign drive letters that I will want to use =
consistently=20
>> in both Operating Systems
>
> Right! This is how I originally installed Vista into Drive V:, =
alongside=20
> WinXP, which was already using Drive D:. I long ago adopted the =
practice=20
> of having nothing in my System Volume except the startup files. =
All OSes=20
> are installed in my other volumes.
>
> Recognize that your Boot Volume will not always be Drive C:. That =
is not=20
> a problem at all for Windows. It is a problem only for users who =
can't=20
> shake off the "Drive C: mindset". Applications will happily =
install=20
> themselves into X:\Program Files as easily as into C:\Program =
Files. ;<)
>
> So decide which letters you want to use; boot into Vista and use =
Disk=20
> Management to create and format the volumes and assign those =
letters.=20
> Then insert the Win7 DVD and point it to the volume you've chosen.
>
>> I am a little bit confused after reading about installing Win 7. =
If I=20
>> boot from Win 7 DVD it will assign the letter C: to its Boot =
Volume, no=20
>> matter what drive I choose.
>
> Yes. IF you boot from the DVD. When you boot from the Win7 DVD, =
it has=20
> no idea what Vista has assigned. If you boot into Vista, then =
insert the=20
> DVD and run Setup from the Vista desktop, it will see the drive =
letters=20
> that Vista has assigned and "inherit" those letters. So if you've =
used=20
> Vista to assign the letter E: to the first partition on your =
second HDD,=20
> you can point Setup to that partition (watch closely to be sure =
that you=20
> are picking the right partition on the right disk). When done, =
Win7's=20
> Boot Volume will be E:, its boot folder will be E:\Windows, and =
the Start=20
> Volume will still be whatever it was - probably still Drive C:.
>
>> Then it says to assign D: to the start volume. The other letters =
will be=20
>> in sequence.
>
> Yes. An OS can't have two Drive C:'s. If you want the Start =
Volume to=20
> remain Drive C:...see previous paragraph.
>
>> Does that mean I need to put Win & Boot Volume on the same drive =
as=20
>> Vista's Boot Volume?? I do not think that is the case. I rather =
check=20
>> first.
>
> NO. The fact that the first partition on the first disk is now =
serving as=20
> both System Volume and Vista's Boot Volume is muddying the waters. =
And=20
> having that first partition assigned Drive C: is not making the =
water any=20
> clearer. But that IS the typical arrangement, rooted in computer=20
> hard-drive history and still the default configuration for most =
new=20
> computers with Windows pre-installed.
>
> Win7's Boot Volume can be in any partition on any HDD in your =
computer.=20
> Only the Start Volume must be in a specific place. When the =
computer is=20
> powered on, all it remembers is what was programmed at the =
factory: Look=20
> for the Active partition on the boot device. Unless the user has =
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from=20
> the existing Windows installations and jump to the Boot Volume =
where the=20
> chosen version is installed - which might be any partition on any =
HDD.
>
>> As of now I have First Drive Portioned in to C: and D:
>>
>> Second Drive Portioned into E: and F:.
>>
>> I want to install Win 7 on the second drive in part ion 1 which =
is E:
>>
>> When I install from Vista I just have to check E: Drive and the =
Boot=20
>> Volume will be on E: too. Hopefully I will have the choice to =
boot into=20
>> Vista or Win 7??
>
> Correct! Boot into Vista, insert the Win7 DVD, and point to "Big =
Win 7=20
> (E" - also shown as partition 1 on Disk 1 - see my next comment. =
Setup=20
> will do the rest, including the dual-boot menu that will appear at =
your=20
> next startup.
>
>> I would also like to give the Drives Names:
>> Drive 1 Portion 1 Big Vista - Which is C:
>> Drive 1 Partition 2 Little Vista - Which is D:
>>
>> Drive 2 Partition 1 Big Win 7 - Which is E:
>> Drive 2 Partition 2 Little Win 7 -Which is F:
>
> Subtle correction: As you can see in Disk Management, physical =
disk=20
> numbering starts with zero; partition numbering starts with one on =
each=20
> physical disk. So your Big Vista is on Disk 0 Partition 1 and =
Little Win7=20
> is on Disk 1 Partition 2. Call the physical device a "Disk" to =
give the=20
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confusion just=20
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> partitions" or "logical drives in the extended partition" or =
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> When installed on a virgin computer, Win7 Setup creates a small =
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letter=20
> to it; this makes it harder for a user to accidentally delete that =
> critical volume or to store apps or data on it.)
>
>> This way I will know exactly which is which, even if Vista calls =
Big=20
>> Vista C and Little Vista D: Also if Win 7 calls it Big Win 7 =
H:
>
> Right! By George, I think you've got it! Vista will also call it =
"Big=20
> Win 7 (H". And H:\Windows will be your Win7 Boot Folder!
>
>> I hope I explained myself??
>
> Yep!
>
>> Thank You in advance
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> P.S. I previously read an answer to this from RC
>
> Post back and let us know how this all worked out, Doug.
>
> RC
> --=20
> R. C. White, CPA
> San Marcos, TX
> rc@grandecom.net
> Microsoft Windows MVP
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bottom.
=
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It=20
all went smooth. Now Vista and Win 7 both recognize =
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names and
letters as the same.
One question. I know it is =
the=20
wrong group. I have not installed and dual
booted since XP. I =
forgot how=20
to change how many seconds you have to select
Vista or Win 7 on =
Boot=20
.
Thanks Again for the help
Doug
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Hi, Doug.
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> It's good to know that someone is reading =
my long=20
posts. ;^}
>
> And it sounds like you understand =
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general scheme of Windows
> dual-booting better than most=20
users.
>
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>>=20
I want to install Windows 7.I have 2 Hard Drives, both are portioned =
in 2=20
>> .
>>
>> If I install windows 7 by =
booting=20
into Vista, inserting the Windows 7 DVD
>> and run=20
setup.
>>
>> This way I can assign drive letters =
that I=20
will want to use consistently
>> in both Operating=20
Systems
>
> Right! This is how I originally =
installed=20
Vista into Drive V:, alongside
> WinXP, which was already =
using Drive=20
D:. I long ago adopted the practice
> of having nothing =
in my=20
System Volume except the startup files. All OSes
> are=20
installed in my other volumes.
>
> Recognize that your =
Boot=20
Volume will not always be Drive C:. That is not
> a =
problem at=20
all for Windows. It is a problem only for users who can't =
>=20
shake off the "Drive C: mindset". Applications will happily =
install=20
> themselves into X:\Program Files as easily as into =
C:\Program=20
Files. ;<
>
> So decide which letters you want =
to use;=20
boot into Vista and use Disk
> Management to create and =
format the=20
volumes and assign those letters.
> Then insert the Win7 DVD =
and=20
point it to the volume you've chosen.
>
>> I am a =
little bit=20
confused after reading about installing Win 7. If I
>> =
boot from=20
Win 7 DVD it will assign the letter C: to its Boot Volume, no =
>>=20
matter what drive I choose.
>
> Yes. IF you boot =
from the=20
DVD. When you boot from the Win7 DVD, it has
> no idea =
what=20
Vista has assigned. If you boot into Vista, then insert the =
>=20
DVD and run Setup from the Vista desktop, it will see the drive =
letters=20
> that Vista has assigned and "inherit" those letters. =
So if=20
you've used
> Vista to assign the letter E: to the first =
partition on=20
your second HDD,
> you can point Setup to that partition =
(watch=20
closely to be sure that you
> are picking the right partition =
on the=20
right disk). When done, Win7's
> Boot Volume will be =
E:, its=20
boot folder will be E:\Windows, and the Start
> Volume will =
still be=20
whatever it was - probably still Drive C:.
>
>> Then =
it says=20
to assign D: to the start volume. The other letters will be =
>> in=20
sequence.
>
> Yes. An OS can't have two Drive =
C:'s. =20
If you want the Start Volume to
> remain Drive C:...see =
previous=20
paragraph.
>
>> Does that mean I need to put Win =
& Boot=20
Volume on the same drive as
>> Vista's Boot Volume?? I do =
not=20
think that is the case. I rather check
>> =
first.
>
>=20
NO. The fact that the first partition on the first disk is now =
serving=20
as
> both System Volume and Vista's Boot Volume is muddying =
the=20
waters. And
> having that first partition assigned =
Drive C: is=20
not making the water any
> clearer. But that IS the =
typical=20
arrangement, rooted in computer
> hard-drive history and =
still the=20
default configuration for most new
> computers with Windows=20
pre-installed.
>
> Win7's Boot Volume can be in any =
partition on=20
any HDD in your computer.
> Only the Start Volume must be in =
a=20
specific place. When the computer is
> powered on, all =
it=20
remembers is what was programmed at the factory: Look
> =
for the=20
Active partition on the boot device. Unless the user has =
changed=20
> the BIOS, that means the first partition on the first HDD - =
and=20
this
> partition becomes the System Volume. The first =
physical=20
sector on that
> partition holds the MBR (Master Boot =
Record),=20
including the partition
> table. Load that and start =
executing its=20
code - which will find the file
> bootmgr (no extension) in =
the Root=20
of that partition, which will use the
> BCD (Boot =
Configuration Data)=20
in the hidden \Boot folder to select from
> the existing =
Windows=20
installations and jump to the Boot Volume where the
> chosen =
version=20
is installed - which might be any partition on any =
HDD.
>
>>=20
As of now I have First Drive Portioned in to C: and=20
D:
>>
>> Second Drive Portioned into E: and=20
F:.
>>
>> I want to install Win 7 on the second =
drive in=20
part ion 1 which is E:
>>
>> When I install from =
Vista I=20
just have to check E: Drive and the Boot
>> Volume will be =
on E:=20
too. Hopefully I will have the choice to boot into
>> =
Vista or Win=20
7??
>
> Correct! Boot into Vista, insert the Win7 =
DVD, and=20
point to "Big Win 7
> (E" - also shown as partition 1 on =
Disk 1 -=20
see my next comment. Setup
> will do the rest, =
including the=20
dual-boot menu that will appear at your
> next=20
startup.
>
>> I would also like to give the Drives=20
Names:
>> Drive 1 Portion 1 Big =
Vista =20
- Which is C:
>> Drive 1 Partition 2 Little =
Vista -=20
Which is D:
>>
>> Drive 2 Partition 1 =
Big Win=20
7 - Which is E:
>> Drive 2 Partition 2 Little Win 7 =
-Which is=20
F:
>
> Subtle correction: As you can see in Disk=20
Management, physical disk
> numbering starts with zero; =
partition=20
numbering starts with one on each
> physical disk. So =
your Big=20
Vista is on Disk 0 Partition 1 and Little Win7
> is on Disk 1 =
Partition 2. Call the physical device a "Disk" to give the =
>=20
greatly-overused term "drive" a little rest and reduce the confusion =
just=20
> a little. Disks are NUMBERED; "drives" (which really =
are=20
"primary
> partitions" or "logical drives in the extended =
partition"=20
or "volumes")
> are assigned LETTERS. (Well, usually; =
drives=20
don't have to have letters.
> When installed on a virgin =
computer,=20
Win7 Setup creates a small separate
> primary partition just =
for the=20
Start Volume and does not assign a letter
> to it; this makes =
it=20
harder for a user to accidentally delete that
> critical =
volume or to=20
store apps or data on it.)
>
>> This way I will know=20
exactly which is which, even if Vista calls Big
>> =
Vista C=20
and Little Vista D: Also if Win 7 calls it =
Big Win 7=20
H:
>
> Right! By George, I think you've got =
it! =20
Vista will also call it "Big
> Win 7 (H". And =
H:\Windows will=20
be your Win7 Boot Folder!
>
>> I hope I explained=20
myself??
>
> Yep!
>
>> Thank You in=20
advance
>>
>> Doug
>>
>> P.S. I=20
previously read an answer to this from RC
>
> Post back =
and let=20
us know how this all worked out, Doug.
>
> RC
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> San Marcos, TX
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