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MrBennett
Posted 6/27/2008 10:25:03 AM




According to the vista pages on the microsoft site, you cannot "upgrade" from
a 32bit XP to a 64bit vista, and must do a clean install, but it is ambiguous
as to what upgrade means. Does this mean that an original install version
(much more expensive) must be purchased, or can the upgrade version be used
on a clean hard drive as long as the XP key or whatever is put in to make it
recognize that you are upgrading?
Post #142795
Mark H
Posted 6/27/2008 10:35:08 AM




Post in reply to: Mr Bennett
It is my understanding (I'm sure someone will be happy to correct me) that
the x64 upgrade (like the x86 upgrade) must be started from within the
current operating system. Vista x64 uses a 64-bit installer. Because of
this, you cannot start the upgrade process from within a 32-bit OS.

That said, going from 32-bit to 64-bit is more commonly refered to as
"migration." It requires a clean install

A clean install can be performed with an upgrade labeled disk of either
bit-ness. Instructions are just about everywhere the word Vista appears.
(The product key, not the disk determines if it is an upgrade.) This upgrade
"clean install" receives promises and threats that _someday_, _someone_ will
catch you and invalidate your activation. So procede at your own risk to
keep those extra dollars.


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Post #142805
Tom Lake
Posted 6/27/2008 10:35:08 AM




Post in reply to: Mr Bennett


Is there an upgrade version of 64 given that it can't be installed over the top of
any
other OS and retain the settings? What would be the point?

Tom Lake

Post #142807
d.dassledoof
Posted 6/27/2008 3:26:28 PM





I also wanted to install 64-bit version of Vista over 32-bit XP. Before
I had purchased Home Premium Upgrade, I had read on Microsoft's website
that you can indeed use the upgrade to do a clean install of the 64-bit
version by choosing a custom install. However you need to have the
original OS on your computer so that the installation can verify that
you own the original OS. This is exactly what Microsofts website states

_&8226;*Upgrading_a_32-bit_operating_system_to_a_64-bit_operating_system*_If_you_purchase_a_64-bit_upgrade_version_of_Windows_Vista_with_the_intention_of_installing_on_a_computer_that_is_running_a_32-bit_operating_system,_you_must_install_Windows_Vista_by_starting_the_computer_from_the_64-bit_Vista_installation_DVD.__

_*Important*_Do_not_remove_the_previous_operating_system_before_you_start_the_Windows_Vista_installation._This_is_because_Windows_Vista_Setup_has_to_verify_that_your_current_operating_system_license_supports_the_installation_of_a_64-bit_upgrade_version._

Here's the page from Microsoft's website- 'Installation choices for
64-bit consumer versions of Windows Vista'
(http://support.microsoft.com/kb/932795/en-us)

I hope I am correct because i purchased the upgrade with the intent of
installing 64-bit version. BTW-I'm still waiting on my 64-bit disk.


--
d.dassledoof
Post #143004
MickMurphy
Posted 6/27/2008 3:26:29 PM




Post in reply to: Mr Bennett
32bit to 64bit is clean install.
Delete the 32bit partition, format, install 64bit version.
Thus, full version of 64bit, not upgrade.
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Mick Murphy - Qld - Australia



Post #143006
Ian D
Posted 6/27/2008 3:26:29 PM




Post in reply to: Mr Bennett


What it means is that you start the upgrade process from 32 bit XP,
then you have two choices for a clean install. Wipe the XP partition and
install Vista 64 there, or clean install it in another partition which will
allow
a dual boot configuration.


Post #143007
Dustin Harper
Posted 6/27/2008 3:35:07 PM




Post in reply to: Mr Bennett
An upgrade version can be used, but you must have the qualifying program
installed (XP, Vista 32, etc.). It will do a clean install (format,
reinstall new), without saving ANY of your old information. So, make sure
you do a GOOD backup. It is not an "upgrade" in the sense that it will
install over your old install, saving your programs, documents, etc..

You do NOT need the full version to upgrade to 64 Bit if you have the other
OS.

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Post #143053
Colin Barnhorst
Posted 6/27/2008 3:55:05 PM




Post in reply to: Mark H
Not correct. In fact just the opposite. The x64 Setup will not run on a
32bit OS. Even when using the upgrade edition.


Post #143064
Colin Barnhorst
Posted 6/27/2008 3:55:05 PM




Post in reply to: Mr Bennett
The word "upgrade" in an upgrade edition refers to the license, not to the
method used to install Windows.

A better word for describing going from 32bits to 64bits is "migrating"
rather than "upgrading." I wish MS would use that term more. Migration
means a clean install of the new OS followed by a fresh installation of your
apps and restoration from backup of your files and settings.

You are entitled to use an Vista upgrade product key to migrate from 32bit
Windows 2000, XP, or Vista to 64bit Vista. You just can't do it without
having to reinstall your apps.

You boot the computer with the Vista x64 dvd and enter the upgrade product
key. Unlike the x86 dvd you will NOT be instructed to run Setup from
existing Windows. Rather, x64 Setup simply searches the computer for a
version of Windows eligible for upgrade to Vista. In your case it will find
XP. Setup will then simply proceed.

You have options as to whether to do a custom installation or use the disk
tools first to delete the XP partition and create a new one before starting
installation (a clean install). Unlike the x86 dvd, the "workaround" often
quoted in order to do a clean install using an upgrade product key is not
need at all with an x64 dvd.


Post #143065
Colin Barnhorst
Posted 6/27/2008 4:05:08 PM




Post in reply to: Tom Lake
Upgrade functionality (that retains apps, files, and settings) would be
enabled when going from Vista Home Basic x64 to Vista Home Premium x64 or
Vista Ultimate x64, and from Vista Home Premiumx64 or Vista Business x64 to
Vista Ultimate x64.


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