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Posted 6/17/2006 9:07:43 AM
 

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I have had the MSDN release of Vista Beta 2 running for a couple of weeks now, and installed the drivers successfully for all of my system components (clean device manager).  The problem I have is that consistently about 5-10 minutes after reboot the signal to the monitor gets cutoff (monitor LED flashes as if monitor is waiting for signal).  There is no way I have found to recover from this short of rebooting.  Whats weird is that if a video is playing through media player, the sound will play out till the end with the screen off.  So the processor is still doing something productive...I tried logging in to the box via remote desktop from another computer which works normally but does not after these half-crashes happen.   Checked the event log after the reboot and nothing glaring in there.  I do know there is a minidump file that is logged during these events but I am unable to access it.   After the amount of time spent tweaking this beta I would love to have it up and running for at least a day!  Any ideas would be great.  Here are my system specs:
 
ASUS P4P800-E Deluxe
P4C 2.4 Ghz
1.5 gb PC3200 DDR dual channel
ATI Radeon 9700 Pro with latest catalyst drivers from ati
onboard gigabit lan
onboard sound (soundmax)
 
I really like Vista so far but its unreliable right now to do anything in for more than 10 minutes!
 
 
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Posted 6/17/2006 9:20:34 AM


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eemmmm this is a strange one, iv not heard of this problem before......

you defo have the up to date gfx drivers yes....... try updating again see if that works, go into device manager and click on your gfx card and up date the driver....

did you get the driver from ati or have you used your instalation disc??? im rattling my brain here trying to think of something else but nothing is jumping out at me....

if you havent already visit ati's website do so and download there latest vista driver.

it sounds like a defo driver problem as rest of the computer still works, its just the moniter..

sorry i couldnt be more help but let us know if any of that is help full...

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Posted 6/17/2006 9:46:46 AM
 

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Niffer, thanks for the reply.  I too thought it was a video card driver...but I just went to ATI site yesterday and upon running the catalyst installer it said I had the latest driver.  The thing that throws me off that lead is the remote desktop problem.  If it were just a graphics driver then wouldnt I be able to connect via remote desktop as normal?  or at least ping?  one minute you can bing the box, the next no response.  So the nic goes down along with the video.  The only other information I have is that once, upon reboot, Vista said the machine crashed with reason: "bluescreen".  there was no bluescreen of course, since no video but that typically points to a driver issue.  Have you heard of any problems with either the 9700 pro and/or the latest catalyst drivers?  Maybe I should roll with the Microsoft WDDM ones instead?
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Posted 6/17/2006 9:54:42 AM


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Niffer, thanks for the reply.  I too thought it was a video card driver...but I just went to ATI site yesterday and upon running the catalyst installer it said I had the latest driver.  The thing that throws me off that lead is the remote desktop problem.  If it were just a graphics driver then wouldnt I be able to connect via remote desktop as normal?  or at least ping?  one minute you can bing the box, the next no response.  So the nic goes down along with the video.  The only other information I have is that once, upon reboot, Vista said the machine crashed with reason: "bluescreen".  there was no bluescreen of course, since no video but that typically points to a driver issue.  Have you heard of any problems with either the 9700 pro and/or the latest catalyst drivers?  Maybe I should roll with the Microsoft WDDM ones instead?

whats it like in safe mode??????? do you lose the screen in there too??

to be honest im not that clued up on the hole remote decktop thing, i couldnt even tell you if remote decktop actually works ok or not! with vista been in the beta stage still that funtion might still have bugs init..

there been lost of problems with all the gfx cards, mine works ok but its abit slower compared to when it runs in xp... ill have a look around the net for you and see if anyone else is having same problems with that gfx card..

have you tryed the microsoft wddm ones yet, if not its worth a try...

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Posted 6/17/2006 9:59:51 AM


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also what vista ayou running 32bit or the 64 version???

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Posted 6/17/2006 10:33:01 AM
 

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32 bit version...latest release of vista 5384 i believe.  I tried the safe mode and no crash, but also limited functionality.  Gonna try and uninstall all the catalyst stuff next...
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Posted 6/17/2006 10:42:47 AM


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right have you tried changing the screen resoultion, whats it set to know???? drop it down a level...

also did you get your drivers from here??????

https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&questionID=19933

drop the resoultion and let me know if that works..

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Posted 6/17/2006 12:15:13 PM


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If it works fine in safemode, then its a driver issue (not that we didn't think that already lol). If your video card driver was wacked and you got a black screen, when you remote desktop to that computer and login, its still gona be a black screen that doesnt change since you are still using that computers hardware when using RDP. You can try not using ATI's drivers and using the basic onces which vista employs, if you havn't already. At this point its really hard to fix stuff like this because on both ends, ATI and Microsoft both their products (Drivers & OS) are in beta so either one could be causing the problem. My guess is that the problem lies in ATI's driver not vista. BTW what kind of card do you have?

I installed Beta 2 last night on my laptop w/ ATI mobil radeon express and it runs like crap, it ran for one day, then today when I turned it on it said I have to activate, and when I hit "activate online" it gives some error....time for a re-install.


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