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Group: Forum Members Last Login: 12/14/2007 12:06:19 PM Posts: 607, Visits: 842 |
| | How many have taken the time to read fully what MS is doing in removing the kill switch for Vista ? It works like this, everytime you boot and at least once an hour you get a message reminding you it's not a genuine copy and a link to allow you to easily get a proper key for it...........here's the reward if you do click through and buy a key it will be at half the price of the retail upgrade version at $119 dollars............I believe they are sending out exactly the wrong message to people here, if you bought a retail copy legally and value the software enough to buy it you have paid double the amount that someone who is willing to steal it and later when caught, their punishment for which is a half price version . So peeps like us who value their work and are willing to pay what was never a really good price and have supported their system from it's outset don't get so much as a thank you, our money is gonna be used to let acknowledged thieves the opportunity to get what we have at half the price. I wonder what we are supposed to advise people who are just thinking of buying Vista from their local retailer.......I can barely bring myself to type it, but I sure know what I would do. Option 1. Buy a genuine copy from a retailer at lets call it world wide currency (whatever) unit of 200 whatever Option 2. Obtain pirated copy, fail to activate, get caught, make it genuine by paying just 100 whatever Now tell me crime doesn't pay and will Microsoft expect anyone to buy their next OS from retail ?
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Group: Vista Forum Moderator Last Login: 11/12/2008 4:29:42 PM Posts: 145, Visits: 867 |
| | One factor you didn't mention is that the pirate copy MAY be full of virus, spyware and other nasties, so if you pay your $100 or so to make a pirate copy legal, you still have to live with whatever might have been embedded in the pirate copy. Steve
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Group: Forum Members Last Login: 12/14/2007 12:06:19 PM Posts: 607, Visits: 842 |
| | It is and always has been an absolute myth about pirate software being full of nasties, a very few out of the thousands available to download are infected, the vast majority work fine, it stands to reason that 'torrent' sites for instance are thriving, this wouldn't be the case if what was available was not only useless but damaging. It's the way the community at large has tried in vain to deter people from trying this type of download by spreading propoganda which I suppose may work for some and put them off, but if you ever look at the number of people in torrent swarms downloading the latest games and films etc; around the net there is conservatively 2 million plus people day and night illegally downloading stuff. The biggest irony against the software industry giving out the same old, 'well if you want your PC full of viruses' etc; is that probably the largest single software group downloaded is for security products, anti vi and malware, spyware etc; I just don't see how they can complain how much money they loose by people downloading their product illicitly then when discovered give them a hefty discount, thank you very much.
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Group: Vista Forum Moderator Last Login: Yesterday @ 1:42:31 PM Posts: 1,024, Visits: 982 |
| | Torrents are not only there for illegal downloads. But some of the so called 'illegal' downloads are just their for the fact that they charge too much, or they release in different parts of the world unessarily at different times. For instance, heroes (TV series), is available to stream for free off the nbc website, only for people in america. I'm not american, and I dont care to wait till feburary to watch season 2. Solution? Download the episodes via torrents. Another example, the other week a Futurama movie was released to dvd. Again, only in america. It doesn't even have a release date for the UK. Again only solution is to download the dvd rip via torrents so that I can watch it.

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Group: Vista Forum Moderator Last Login: 6/23/2008 8:26:49 PM Posts: 39, Visits: 79 |
| | That sucks. I want a discount as a legit owner of Vista. So, if I were to steal a car, I get the option to purchase it for half the blue book value?! Ferarri, here I come! Same concept... Microsoft is still punishing the legit users here. If it is a pirated copy, you should have to pay FULL RETAIL PRICE. No discounts. No pass go. No collect $200. And an additional fee to cover anti-piracy. Well, at least I know how to get Vista for cheap on another computer... Better than OEM...
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Group: Vista Forum Moderator Last Login: 1/26/2008 11:51:59 AM Posts: 228, Visits: 972 |
| the problem with the paid versions is that you always have the risk it stops working someday because of the activation.
I refuse to waste 1 euro a minute (and at least 30 minutes waiting time)to get it working again. I already paid €375 for it. thats 550 USD
is that my reward for doing something legal

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Group: Forum Members Last Login: 12/14/2007 12:06:19 PM Posts: 607, Visits: 842 |
| | I don't have anything against torrents personally, I have downloaded a number of things using the system which are not blatently illicit and I have no axe to grind with people who download whatever they see fit, but my problem is when someone downloads software that I need, by virtue of my own morales, to purchase that when caught for doing so are given it at half what I had to pay and yes I know that there are other methods of getting software other than via torrents I just picked on them as being the most popular to illustrate a point. I can think of no other instance when an illicit act is punished with a 50% discount off the purchase price of the article gained unlawfully.
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Group: Administrators Last Login: 11/11/2008 9:24:04 PM Posts: 2,103, Visits: 2,251 |
| I'm not saying that I have ever downloaded an Illegal application but from what I've heard and what makes the most sense as far as programmer is concered. Infecting the software itself is not an easy task which is why the majority of the time the software is fine, it's the crack you download for it which has all kinds of backdoor trojans loaded up on it, since this little crack is in essence a homebrew app.
BTW, I've never heard about the option of allowing them to purchase the activation at a lower price. Has anyone actually confirmed this w/ a screenshot or is it rumor? I just can't belive that a company held to such high standards as Microsoft would do something so stupid as enable pirating. Which is basically what they are doing, if indeed this is happening.
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