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| I can honestly say since i have got my computer about 4 months before christmas I have had no problems at all with Vista! I think it runs perfectly and alot of my programs run better than they did on my old XP computer! Can't wait for SP1 so everyone who isnt sure about Vista will get it and see how amazing it is 
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| Assassinate666 (2/19/2008)
I can honestly say since i have got my computer about 4 months before christmas I have had no problems at all with Vista! I think it runs perfectly and alot of my programs run better than they did on my old XP computer! Can't wait for SP1 so everyone who isnt sure about Vista will get it and see how amazing it is I agree. Before vista was released, it for some reason became 'cool' to think vista was rubbish. The truth is its alot better than XP, an improvement in all aspects, including performance on high (now medium) spec machines by utilising the power that modern day computers have. I for one like how in the extremely rare event that a program freezes you can still use vista. When a game freezes, its so much easier ot have the ability to ctrl-shift-esc and task kill, instead of in win XP having to reset the computer.
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| The original topic appeared to ask not if people had problems, but why there are so many problems with Vista. Let me try to answer that my way ...
1) Too many basic (i.e., infrastructure) changes too quickly. While I understand MS's goal to adopt totally new models for video and audio, disabling the old models right away made two presumptions (both of which proved to be faulty): First, that hardware vendors would be quick to step in with new drivers written for the new models, and second, that not only would the new driver work flawlessly, but they would provide even more functionality than the XP drivers. In far too many cases, both of these presumptions were proven wrong. It took too many MONTHS for video and audio drivers to stabilize. This is closely related to the second problem ...
2) Vendors not stepping up to the demands of Vista in a timely manner. Still having beta Nvidia and ATI drivers months after Vista release was ridiculous! For several months, there was no sound card on the market that had full functionality under Vista. Far too many people bought Vista-capable machines from vendors that failed to emphasize that one or more of the major marketing features of Vista was not ever going to be available on certain machines.
3) Too many, way too many, false "positives" with WGA. Even by MS's own count, literally millions of legitimate customers found their machines disabled through bugs in WGA implementation. You can see by the fact that they've disabled the "kill switch" in SP 1 that they STILL have not figured out how to make this work correctly.
4) Too many basic problems, apparently caused by Windows Updates, way too late in the OS deployment timeframe. As time goes by, we see MORE reports of machines suddenly being crippled via Windows Update -- including the need to repair Windows Update itself. I could be wrong, my memory is not the best these days, but I don't recall XP having so many "things don't work anymore" kind of problems over a year after its introduction.
5) And ... last but not least ... fielding a product that was clearly not ready for prime time. If you buy a new car, and a week later, the transmission craps out, you don't want the dealer whining about how that product was outsourced so it's not realy "their" problem -- you just want it fixed!! Same is true of Vista. MS had an obligation to confirm that their partner network was in place to support Vista from day one -- not with "beta" versions of drivers, but with field-tested, final, fully functional versions. MS had an obligation to err on the side of the customer when WGA suspected a problem -- to tell the customer their product "might" be invalid, and provide a notice -- not to disable their machine and force them to make a phone call to India to get it fixed. And, if they couldn't get WGA to work flawlessly, push out an update that disabled WGA until they could. MS also had an obligation to establish default settings with Vista that prevent system corruption, not virtually guarantee it -- by having Windows Update for drivers turned OFF by default.
So, my feeling is that there are so many Vista-related problems because MS and it's partners put profit ahead of quality -- they dropped the ball.
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| WAW8 (2/19/2008)
4) Too many basic problems, apparently caused by Windows Updates, way too late in the OS deployment timeframe. As time goes by, we see MORE reports of machines suddenly being crippled via Windows Update -- including the need to repair Windows Update itself. I could be wrong, my memory is not the best these days, but I don't recall XP having so many "things don't work anymore" kind of problems over a year after its introduction.I agree with you on this one the most. There are hundreds of topics where the root cause is windows updates.
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| King:
Actually, I just finished reading another forum where LOTS of people who installed some or all of SP 1 fromMSDN/Technet official sources have suddenly found their machine completely disabled!! The machine boots, and reboots, and reboots ...
Only ones that have been able to get a working machine back have been those folks with a restore point back before the installation of ANY of the three SP1-related updates.
So, maybe #4 will be the "Vista killer" after all!!
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| kingofnexus (2/19/2008)
Assassinate666 (2/19/2008)
I can honestly say since i have got my computer about 4 months before christmas I have had no problems at all with Vista! I think it runs perfectly and alot of my programs run better than they did on my old XP computer! Can't wait for SP1 so everyone who isnt sure about Vista will get it and see how amazing it is
I agree. Before vista was released, itfor some reason became 'cool' to think vista was rubbish. The truth is its alot better than XP, an improvement in all aspects, including performance on high (now medium) spec machines by utilising the power that modern day computers have. I for one like how in the extremely rare event that a program freezes you can still use vista. When a game freezes, its so much easier ot have the ability to ctrl-shift-esc and task kill, instead of in win XP having to reset the computer.
Yeah thats one thing I love if a program messes up it is so much easier in Vista to end it rather than having to wait for about half an hour in XP to end it lol. I agree that most of the problems people get in Vista is with drivers and such as people install old XP drivers and expect them to work with Vista. Most problems are usually easily fixed except the Windows Updates ones, as I stated I have had no pronlems with Vista but I installed an optional update for my graphics card which made my screen XP size icons and stuff I just had to mess around with the resolution till I found the right one! Thats the only update related problem I've had and it wasnt with an important update either
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| | Hey guys, I'm dylan. I'm sixteen and recently just got a vista desktop. And the weirdest thing happens. I get the blue screen of death. Now, thats not the amazing part. I get it everyday, and i never have to dump my computer. But i get it, every single day, same time. But I don't have to do anything but restart my computer. Whats the deal? |
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| Please don't post problems in the Main Lounge -- this is for general discussion.
Please post your questions in the Technical Support forum.
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