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Andy B
Posted 5/8/2008 7:25:03 PM




I've just purchased a new PC, built for me by a friend who's very good at
that sort of thing! I've set up my internet and email accounts, and was
wondering whether my ISP are likely to hold all my old email messages which I
received whilst working with my old PC, or whether they are stored somewhere
on the PC itself. Windows Mail is showing me new mail received today, but no
old messages. I would have thought the ISP would have them. Is there any way
to retrieve them through Windows Mail? My old PC is pretty much fried,
physically, so can't go back to it! Thanks everyone

Andy
Post #107758
Gary VanderMolen
Posted 5/8/2008 7:45:03 PM




Post in reply to: Andy B

Are we talking about a POP account? If so, the default for POP accounts
is that mail will be deleted from the server after it is downloaded.
To see if the old messages are still there, you can look in the mailbox
on the server via webmail. If not there, they will be on the old PC only.
Since you have a savvy friend, he should be able to take the old hard
drive out of the old PC and hook it up as a slave drive to a good PC
long enough to retrieve the old emails.

--
Gary VanderMolen, MS-MVP



Post #107772
Anonymous
Posted 5/8/2008 7:55:03 PM




Post in reply to: Andy B


Depends on whether you were using the IMAP connection method or the POP
method, and whether you used the setting to save copies of the messages on
the server.


Post #107779
Steve Cochran
Posted 5/9/2008 7:55:16 AM




Post in reply to: Andy B
The mail is probably removed from the server when you download it. You can
set that under Tools | Accounts | Mail | Properties | Advanced.

Your old mail is probably in OE dbx files on the old hard drive. See
www.oehelp.com/backup.aspx

steve


Post #108039
l
Posted 11/20/2009 4:45:40 PM




Post in reply to: Bill Walsh
Hi Bill,

If you are using a 32-bit Vista, th??n you might also see if the free
program "Unlocker" may be able to allow you to delete it.

-=-


Post #249186
R. C. White
Posted 11/24/2009 8:45:16 AM




Post in reply to: Bill Walsh
Hi, Bill.

How old is "old"? And how recently were those files deleted?

The indexing service works only in the background so that it doesn't
interfere with what we are doing in the foreground. If we keep the computer
busy and are careful to shut it down as soon as we are finished, it might
not get enough "down time" to keep the index up to date. A lag of several
hours - or even several days - is not unusual for a hard-working system.
Until it has a chance to catch up, it might report that some deleted files
are still there, or that some moved files are still in their old locations -
or other mistakes.

You might want to leave the computer running during your lunch break - or
even overnight. You can turn off the monitor, but leave the system running
so that background tasks can continue.

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64


Post #249833
Bill Walsh
Posted 11/24/2009 10:45:27 AM




Post in reply to: R. C. White
Thanks for replying. However, that is not my puzzlement. It is this: Why
does Vista keep these old files that I intentionally deleted? When I delete
emails, I use the "shift delete" option. A message box appears and asks "do
you want to permanently
delete this (these) message? I click on the yes option. So why does vista
not let the mesage go away forever? BW

Post #249858
R. C. White
Posted 11/24/2009 12:45:32 PM




Post in reply to: Bill Walsh
Hi, Bill.

Please tell us again - more explicitly - WHERE you see these files. The
full pathname, please. I don't have any folder with that name in either
Win7 or Vista.

The phrase "indexed file locations" turns up plenty of hits on Bing, but the
first half-dozen or so are YOUR post in several different "forums" (soft32,
vistaheads, windowskb, etc.). You didn't post to those forums, of course,
but they all "slurp" messages from these Microsoft public newsgroups to make
their own sites look busier and more expert - and to increase their revenue
from click ads.

There might be something useful in this MSDN link:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsdesktopsearchhelp/thread/48e21191-9af6-45e1-9207-25b6872e4ee1/

But my only thought is what I posted earlier: Vista did not keep those old
files. The files are gone, but the Indexing Service hasn't yet caught up
and still shows them as present. And you didn't answer my two questions:

RC
--
R. C. White, CPA
San Marcos, TX
rc@grandecom.net
Microsoft Windows MVP
Windows Live Mail 2009 (14.0.8089.0726) in Win7 Ultimate x64


Post #249869
Bill Walsh
Posted 11/24/2009 12:45:33 PM




Post in reply to: R. C. White
I just clicked the start button (windows classic style) In the menu I click
on "search for files or people" A window opens titled "search results" and
the message says:" to begin, type in the search box" In this instance, the
search box is located in the upper right corner. I type in any letter and
the
search window title instantly changed to "search Results in Indexed
Loxations" The second line from the top reads: "Show Only: All, then e-mail
then Document, then Picture, then Music, then Other. When I click the word
"email", all of my old email subject titles show up in the large window
underneath. The dates of the emails go back for months. I can see that this
indexing helps searching for older files, etc. but I would like to delete
the emails only..

Post #249870
TooDawgs
Posted 11/24/2009 12:45:33 PM




Post in reply to: R. C. White
I also searched for 'indexed locations" and the folder that came up on my
Vista x64 had tons of old e-mails and newsgroups posts and just about
everything that had been done on the computer dating back to 2001 although I
bought the pc last year new. I figured out that if you select any item you
want to delete then click 'File' then 'Move To Folder' then move these items
to the 'Recycle Bin' then you can delete them from there. My questions are:
Is it safe to just select everything in this folder and delete them? Will it
cause any problems to delete all these items? I thought when you deleted
something it wouldn't be so easy to retrieve them. There's nothing
embarassing or illegal in the folder, it's just when I delete something I'd
like it to be 'more gone' than that.
thanks for any input,
toodawgs





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