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On Fri, 4 Jul 2008 19:38:37 -0700, "Alfred Lorona"
Yes, that's exactly what dual-boot means.
You do know what it means. What perhaps you didn't know, and what I
tried to explain, is that the facility to dual-boot doesn't come
automatically, and when you install Windows 98 *after* Windows XP, you
need third-party software to get it.
And what you apparently still don't realize is the term "dual-boot"
didn't appear in your original message.
Going back and looking at your original post, you did say that. My
apologies. I missed it, probably because you began your post with the
sentence "I created a 10 GB partition, K, to install Office 98" rather
than saying something like "I created a 10 GB partition, K, to install
Windows 98 in a dual-boot scenario and Office 98 underneath it."
But the point is that you *can* do exactly that. But there's no good
reason to do so, and we all (I think) assumed that that's exactly what
you wanted to do, for some reason we didn't understand, so therefore
asked you for clarification.
I don't agree. You simply wrote your first message ambiguously, and
confused us. I don't say that to give you a hard time or to chastise
you; we all do that from time to time. Simply accept it, clarify the
misunderstandings (as you did) and move on.
Not at all. And you're not an ignoramus just because you wrote a
confusing message
Your choice, of course. But if I were you. I wouldn't be so quick to
take offense. We were trying to help you, but the first step is always
understanding what you want, and that often means clarifying any
ambiguities in your messages.
--
Ken Blake, Microsoft MVP - Windows Desktop Experience
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| | | | | Post in reply to: Alfred Lorona
You are making this way harder than you need to. You did not need a
partition for Win98. Download VPC 2007 and create a virtual machine.
Install Win98 in it and then install Office 97 on that just like you
would've a real computer. Share the printer attached to your computer with
the virtual machine and you can run Office with full functionality.
There are some problems trying to dual boot Win98 on your computer. For
starters you will not have motherboard drivers for it and Win98 only
supports 512mb without special measures. You don't have any of those issues
in a virtual machine and you don't even have to reboot to use Win98. A
virtual machine runs right on your Vista desktop in its own Window and you
can communicate between them.
There is a newsgroup, microsoft.public.virtualpc, with some savvy folks to
help you get this all set up.
VPC is free at:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=28c97d22-6eb8-4a09-a7f7-f6c7a1f000b5&displaylang=en
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| | | | | Post in reply to: Alfred Lorona
LOL! You have to realise it's up to you to describe your problem
properly. There's no reason not to run Office97 under Vista, you
have to watch the permission issues and where Office is putting
template files etc. Unless you control these (issues) properly, you
won't be able to save macros and so on properly.
--
Chris Game
Gotta run, the cat's caught in the printer.
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| | | | | Post in reply to: Alfred Lorona
No problem - everyone has to start somewhere - what you've describes is
indeed accurately termed 'dual boot' - but again I mention that it would
be more convenient to install '98 in a virtual machine so it can be run
from within rather than having to reboot the system.
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| | | | | Post in reply to: Alfred Lorona
Dual-booting isn't a problem, at all, when done correctly.
Normally, the older OS must be installed first unless you wish to
acquire and use some 3rd-party partition and boot management utility.
(In which case you have to follow the instructions provided by whatever
3rd party solution you select.) However, this KB Article (not for the
faint of heart or technically-challenged) explains how to repair the
Vista boot process after installing WinXP:
Windows Vista no longer starts after you install an earlier version of
the Windows operating system in a dual-boot configuration
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/919529
MS-MVP John Barnett's Guide is considerably more user-friendly:
http://vistasupport.mvps.org/install_windows_xp_on_machine_running_vista.htm
Before proceeding:
First and foremost, if the specific computer model in question was
designed specifically for Vista, there may well be no WinXP-specific
device drivers available to make the computer's diverse components work
properly. If this proves to be the case , installing WinXP in a virtual
machine would be your best option, anyway. Consult the computer's
manufacturer about the availability of device drivers. Secondly, adding
another OS might void any support agreements and, sometimes, even the
warranty. Again, consult the computer's manufacturer for specifics.
However, dual-booting is no longer necessary in a great many
situations. Why not download a Virtual Machine application, such as
Microsoft's VirtualPC 2007
(http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/search.asp?) or Innotek's VirtualBox
(http://www.virtualbox.org/) and run WinXP and your legacy applications
within a virtual computer? Both are free and work with Vista.
NOTE: Microsoft does not support the use of VirtualPC 2007 on Vista
Home editions, but several people have reported that it works. Your
results may vary.
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
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Bruce, are you sure there even are chipset drivers for Win98/ME for his
computer? I doubt it. The mfgs are not writing drivers anymore (haven't
for about three years) for new mobos and computers. Also, a computer that
is running Vista already has too much memory without taking special measures
because Win98 does not behave with much more than 512mb aboard. I am not so
sure we ought to recommend dual booting with Win9x/ME on the current
generation of hardware. At best it would require a savvy user to get it
going, assuming that Win98 would run stably.
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| | | | | Post in reply to: Colin Barnhorst
All valid points, and something the OP would have to look into before
proceeding. That why I closed with a recommendation to look into
virtual machines, rather than simply dual-booting. (But you're right: I
should have placed more emphasis on the potential difficulties. I was
in a WinXP/Vista frame of mind, I'm afraid. It's been too many years
since I've given much thought to Win9x.)
--
Bruce Chambers
Help us help you:
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx/kb/555375
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary
safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. ~Benjamin Franklin
Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do. ~Bertrand Russell
The philosopher has never killed any priests, whereas the priest has
killed a great many philosophers.
~ Denis Diderot
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| | | | | Post in reply to: Bruce Chambers
Yes, VPC is designed for exactly the OP's purpose. Especially since there
is no partioning or reboots and communication with the host is a mouseclick
away.
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| | | | | Post in reply to: Alfred Lorona
I would just go to http://www.openoffice.org and try their free office
compatible suite.
IF you find it workable, great, it's free.
If you still want to use MS Office, a virtual machine sounds like your best
choice.
But with the way you describe your computer literacy, I'm not sure if you
are up to setting up a VM.
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